SE Please implement a Chonoscroll/PLEX system in FFXIV: ARR

[Aenarion]

Sure, Aenarion. As long as you understand that when someone opposes your idea, you respect their opinions and don't argue each and every one of them down.

I respect your right to your own opinions, as everyone is entitled to their own.

However, you're not entitled to your own fact, and I have every right to tear down the posts that are factually incorrect.

[Applesnap]

I respect your right to your own opinions, as everyone is entitled to their own.

However, you're not entitled to your own fact, and I have every right to tear down the posts that are factually incorrect.

Just...stop...arguing everyone down. I'm done here. Not going to internet-argue with people who think they are constantly right.

[Aenarion]

Interesting thread. 2 questions for those in favor:

1. Wouldn't this allow RMT to remove their own subscription costs, since they will clearly have gil to spend on these tokens? While I can see decreased demand for RMT gil as a function of this system, I am guessing RMT has decreased costs as well.

Naturally, though the final effect is probably a net negative for RMT operations, as other operating costs such as employee, equipment, electricity etc. cannot be negated this way, while the PLEX system sets an artificial price ceiling on what they can charge for their currencies.

2. What's to stop RMT from cornering the market in these tokens? Can they not be resold? I'd think that RMT, with unlimited (hypothetically) gil, would almost be forced to buy all tokens and then resell them at the same rate they sell directly. Is that observed in other games?

The supply of those PLEX/Token is unlimited, as long as there are people willing to pay the devs real money in exchange for them. Buying all the ones one the market and reselling (a typical market manipulation technique) may give them some profit boost in the short term (and carries the risk for losses should the bubble implode while they still holds stock), it's an unsustainable cycle as higher in-game price for PLEX only serves to incentivize others to purchase PLEX from the devs and sell for ingame currency, creating additional supplies (in most cases, oversupply) that can only create a bubble that will inevitably burst, as demands for PLEX goes down as price goes up.

Volume is a huge factor here. In Eve the daily trade volume of PLEX is immense (approx. $45,000 to $60,000+ USD worth in the central market hub alone), it's really beyond the capability of any one entity to have anything more than a temporary effect on PLEX price, much less corner its market. As far as the market is concerned, think of PLEX more as a commodities like stocks or gold. Many people uses PLEX as hedge against inflation, and any abnormal price spike is only going to cause the stockholders to release their holdings to make some easy profits.

Would this happen in FF14? it's hard to say, as Eve has one of the largest, most robust and complicated economy/market system in any MMO, so it behaves differently than your typical MMO economy does.

Just...stop...arguing everyone down. I'm done here. Not going to internet-argue with people who think they are constantly right.

LOL

This has nothing to do with whether I think I'm right or not. You stated your arguments, which I countered with my own along with the reasons to show that you statements were in fact incorrect, and that's somehow "arguing people down", whatever that even means. This is a forum, it's used to debate stuff, it's not just used for circle-jerks or undeserved mob pilling-ons like you were doing, which ironically you seem to have no problem with.

The best part of all this? you didn't even once try to actually debate the points I raised, instead immediately resort to "omg you disagreed with me you're a big meanie!!!!11!!"