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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Hmm i knew he had a tattoo on his head but is it the same ...
    I never thought to look at it until you asked ... but yes and no. They all have the same symbol. However, something weird is up with some of them.

    Louisoix's is white, on his forehead, and with an opening facing to the right, while Urianger's is black, on his face, and facing to the left.

    Y'shtola, Thancred, Yda, and Papalymo all have them on each side of their neck, facing both ways. So, what does this mean? Ellephino!

    It seems that Louisoix was busy with larger tasks until this one absolutely needed his attention. They all were, really.

    If we're continuing along the same path of assumptions we have been, perhaps their journey was getting more and more specific over time. They find out that whatever it is that they're interested in at this point happened in this age - so they come here. They learn that whatever they're interested in at this point started with The Key - they send Y'shtola to go hunt that down through time. They know the Empire has something to do with it, they send Yda and Papalymo to Gridania to echo in and out trying to find when they invade. They send Thancred to ... figure out ... what it's like to seduce women in each individual era? (I'm not really sure what his story is, but every time I see him personally he's trying to get in someone/thing's pants.)

    Once they hone in on their goals, they see the big picture, oh, Gods, everyone's going to die - primals, war, falling moon - QUICK, GET LOUISOIX.

    Still... why Urianger and Lousioix each only have one tattoo in opposite colors/directions... that's interesting. Louisoix is our way out, our salvation - and Urianger announced (and has been accused of causing) the fall of the astral era... could that have something to do with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    I never thought to look at it until you asked ... but yes and no. They all have the same symbol. However, something weird is up with some of them.

    Louisoix's is white, on his forehead, and with an opening facing to the right, while Urianger's is black, on his face, and facing to the left.

    Y'shtola, Thancred, Yda, and Papalymo all have them on each side of their neck, facing both ways. So, what does this mean? Ellephino!

    It seems that Louisoix was busy with larger tasks until this one absolutely needed his attention. They all were, really.

    If we're continuing along the same path of assumptions we have been, perhaps their journey was getting more and more specific over time. They find out that whatever it is that they're interested in at this point happened in this age - so they come here. They learn that whatever they're interested in at this point started with The Key - they send Y'shtola to go hunt that down through time. They know the Empire has something to do with it, they send Yda and Papalymo to Gridania to echo in and out trying to find when they invade. They send Thancred to ... figure out ... what it's like to seduce women in each individual era? (I'm not really sure what his story is, but every time I see him personally he's trying to get in someone/thing's pants.)

    Once they hone in on their goals, they see the big picture, oh, Gods, everyone's going to die - primals, war, falling moon - QUICK, GET LOUISOIX.

    Still... why Urianger and Lousioix each only have one tattoo in opposite colors/directions... that's interesting. Louisoix is our way out, our salvation - and Urianger announced (and has been accused of causing) the fall of the astral era... could that have something to do with it?
    I think anything with Urianger and louisioix are just addon for the end of the world for 2.0 there really not the real main plot of the game but i guess they are now and that the reason there tattoo are diff from the others. i guess we have to play 2.0 and see what happen next and seeing how everything going to be voice over it going to be easy to understand the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    seeing how everything going to be voice over it going to be easy to understand the story.
    Do we have any idea how often we'll be seeing those voiceovers? Full graphical cutscenes only, again? Main mission cutscenes? Plot-related quests? I don't believe any of the NPCs or minor quests were speaking during the feeds I was watching from the alphALFAAAAaaa... TEA ... PARTY.....

    I ... >.> <.< >.>
    have to gooo ... now...

    I have a...
    FOOD...
    in the oven...

    [runs away]

    On a more serious note

    Just for fun, I bounced the tattoo situation off of one of my wiki bosses o'er'der at the GamerEscape (Gahoo) and he came up with the idea that perhaps the reason they each only have one tattoo is that they TOGETHER are the Archon of Nald'thal...

    Now that's a theory.

    Until now, I'd assumed that Louisoix was Thaliak's ... I'm gonna dig around and see if that's absolutely something we know for certain... I mean the staff is kind of a giveaway... but I'm gonna check into it anyway. The staff could just mean that, as the leader of the circle of knowing, he's pretty big on the knowledge representations.

    Also, I'm totally not ignoring your Gridania posts; I'll use them as my guide when I look into them when I'm free ^^

    Wait a minute... Let's get back on topic for a moment

    What if the Emperor of the Garlean Empire already has a primal? One that accepts his society as its benefactors? One that provided them with the knowledge and power to rise as fast as they have? Surely this primal, like the others, would demand the same two things: to be the True God and to be gifted with our aether in return.

    If you were the Emperor of an empire built on the gifts of a primal that demanded such things... you would be left with two goals: Exterminate all other primals... and gather all aether.

    THAT'S why Gaius attacked Silvertear Falls' aether source
    THAT'S why the Empire has taken control of Eorzea's biggest crystal deposits
    THAT'S why all primals are to be systematically exterminated
    THAT'S why the White Raven thought Meteor was such a good idea

    And I Quote: "The more violent or dramatic the loss of life, the greater the amount of inner aether released to take the form of crystals or remain imperceptibly in the atmosphere. "

    It sounds like you could generate quite a bit of primal food if you dropped a METEOR on a continent containing (A) thousands of innocent people and (B) the only other competition left for The One True God.

    Maybe Gaius has a bad feeling about this because Odin is about to absolutely wreck Garlemald's primal's plans...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Do we have any idea how often we'll be seeing those voiceovers? Full graphical cutscenes only, again? Main mission cutscenes? Plot-related quests? I don't believe any of the NPCs or minor quests were speaking during the feeds I was watching from the alphALFAAAAaaa... TEA ... PARTY.....

    I ... >.> <.< >.>
    have to gooo ... now...

    I have a...
    FOOD...
    in the oven...

    [runs away]

    On a more serious note

    Just for fun, I bounced the tattoo situation off of one of my wiki bosses o'er'der at the GamerEscape (Gahoo) and he came up with the idea that perhaps the reason they each only have one tattoo is that they TOGETHER are the Archon of Nald'thal...

    Now that's a theory.

    Until now, I'd assumed that Louisoix was Thaliak's ... I'm gonna dig around and see if that's absolutely something we know for certain... I mean the staff is kind of a giveaway... but I'm gonna check into it anyway. The staff could just mean that, as the leader of the circle of knowing, he's pretty big on the knowledge representations.


    Wait a minute... Let's get back on topic for a moment

    What if the Emperor of the Garlean Empire already has a primal? One that accepts his society as its benefactors? One that provided them with the knowledge and power to rise as fast as they have? Surely this primal, like the others, would demand the same two things: to be the True God and to be gifted with our aether in return.

    If you were the Emperor of an empire built on the gifts of a primal that demanded such things... you would be left with two goals: Exterminate all other primals... and gather all aether.

    THAT'S why Gaius attacked Silvertear Falls
    THAT'S why the primals are to be destroyed
    THAT'S why the Empire has taken our crystal deposits
    THAT'S why the White Raven cast Meteor


    And I Quote: "The more violent or dramatic the loss of life, the greater the amount of inner aether released to take the form of crystals or remain imperceptibly in the atmosphere. "

    It sounds like you could generate quite a bit of primal food if you dropped a METEOR on a continent containing (A) thousands of innocent people and (B) the only other competition left for The One True God.

    Maybe Gaius has a bad feeling about this because Odin is about to absolutely wreck Garlemald's primal's plans...

    They said that all Main story line would be voice over in japeanse, english and others yes side story one because it's side story
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    They send Thancred to ... figure out ... what it's like to seduce women in each individual era? (I'm not really sure what his story is, but every time I see him personally he's trying to get in someone/thing's pants.
    It's been a *long* time since I've watched all my city quests, but if I'm remembering right Thancred was investigating both the Thaumturge's magics and the situation revolved around someones death (which eventually tied back into discovering Ifrit, I believe?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icecylee View Post
    It's been a *long* time since I've watched all my city quests, but if I'm remembering right Thancred was investigating both the Thaumturge's magics and the situation revolved around someones death (which eventually tied back into discovering Ifrit, I believe?)
    Thancred was actually investigating the Thaumaturge's ability to bring a dead person back to life, actually.
    There was one artifact in particular, a dagger (or more precisely, the gem in the dagger's hilt) that could give a Thaumaturge sufficient power to revert death.

    Also he was looking over the death of an Ala'mighan that apparently had top-secret intel from Garlemald, but was killed by a goobue during a parade, something that we later discover has been purposefully orchestrated.

    If memory serves me well... The crystal on the dagger was lost in the thaumaturge's guild. At some point during an Echo you see the dagger fall, the gem fall off and roll into one of the many cracks and vanish from the screen and then Thancred proclaims the gem lost.
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