voice chat between pc and ps3???

[Zehira]

<<<this, agree with warlock on something lol. there is zero need for them. i came from 5years of ffxi and we didn't need it for 64man stuff, we sure as heck not "need" it for any other mmo that has gotten easier and dumber to play since then. i'm glad the devs agree not to add it, there is tons of languages of players and now ps3'ers to add so i doubt this games enforcers of vent will win in this game. you say get on vent, i say theres another linkshell that will be better without it being used.

all in all i think it will be for smaller linkshells to use on a personal level not for any large scale events for ffxiv. but that is just my opinion. if you need people to explain the event over and over to you then you probably not gonna be in any shell i want to be in either way. if you can't do a few mins and watch a video or something, then to bad. if too lazy to type, tough shits. not waisting hours on a headset to save 20mins of typing or macro making. but meh some mmo's it's just impossible to play without vent cause they insist on it, but those are usually mmo's that are just NA servers ..i'll be happy to roll with other countries and ps3'ers just for this matter.

<3 you and Warlord... I have played FFXI for 9 years and did many endgames without voice chat. It was the most fun MMO I have ever played.

I am not against voice chat, it's their choices I respect that. The problem is that I am not able to speak or hear because I am deaf on my both ears (no joking). I tried to join any endgame shell and it seems I was the only one who types some text. I did let them know if that's okay I am deaf and can't use voice chat before I joined them and they didn't care, however, I found it no fun at all. lol If I can't find any endgame shell that doesn't require voice chat then I guess it will tell me to go back to FFXI which is sad for me. lol I have played many multiplayer games, in my opinion, Square Enix is the most deaf-friendly video game company in the world.

[Slade]

I feel you pain, being deaf in both ears automatically excludes you from voice chat. I think most shells will be understanding of that although as you stated yourself it wasnt much fun for you because you were the only one writing in text. My hope is that when we eventually come together with ps3 players that lack of voice chat does not serve to alienate or segregate the player base. Or serve to discourage ps3 players from playing. I personally have alot of fun playing this game and for it to be successful we will need for the player base to feel as though they are on even ground. For pc players voice chat is a choice, if a shell requires it you can choose to use it or move on and play with another group that doesn't. For ps3 players there is no choice. If you dont have a smart phone or laptop then when faced with a similar situation you will not have the choice to use voice chat. What im asking for is that the choice be there for those players as well, the argument that by implementing it you will make it mandatory is invalid because most endgame shells already have such rules in place.

[Rau]

How many people actually use the ingame voice chat...?

I've noticed people stick to TS or Vent regardless if its provided or not.

[Valmonte]

No, VoIP is better left to dedicated hardware as it puts a hellish toll on any Game Server.

[Valmonte]

<3 you and Warlord... I have played FFXI for 9 years and did many endgames without voice chat. It was the most fun MMO I have ever played.

I am not against voice chat, it's their choices I respect that. The problem is that I am not able to speak or hear because I am deaf on my both ears (no joking). I tried to join any endgame shell and it seems I was the only one who types some text. I did let them know if that's okay I am deaf and can't use voice chat before I joined them and they didn't care, however, I found it no fun at all. lol If I can't find any endgame shell that doesn't require voice chat then I guess it will tell me to go back to FFXI which is sad for me. lol I have played many multiplayer games, in my opinion, Square Enix is the most deaf-friendly video game company in the world.

if you can speak properly(not born deaf) there are a great number programs that are really good at translating Speech to Text. you may wish to look into them.

[Viritess]

Theres another issue what i haven't seen mentioned that is a usual complaint about In game VIOP services:

If your game crashes....you loose Coms. Infact you can't even tell people you crashed because....you crashed voice too. Its just not the best system. Sometimes the best functionality comes from not evening every function in one program/client.

Not to mention most VIOP "seems" shall we say, extreamly tacked on. Generally because it is either added later in the games life. Or decided to be done late in development.

Theres more pros and cons, but i'm at work so i'll have to stop here. ^^

[Zenaku]

I thought Yoshi said one of the main reasons for not having voice chat in the game was because of sexual harassment. OHH you crazy Japanese.
To me voice chat only works with smaller groups who play together a lot and RESPECT each other. I think they should revisit the idea of a voice-enabled free company function. Maybe a Grand Company item you have to buy for the free company to enable voice over ip or something.... idk....

yep that one of the reason and the other is it going to take to much work to make it work pc<<>>>ps3 and they would need help from sony on it. i just don't see it happening look at wow they don't even use it. But i still think we should have it due to the ps3 users but w/e i guess they have to use laptop and smartphones to listen in endgame lol

[Laraul]

yep that one of the reason and the other is it going to take to much work to make it work pc<<>>>ps3 and they would need help from sony on it. i just don't see it happening look at wow they don't even use it. But i still think we should have it due to the ps3 users but w/e i guess they have to use laptop and smartphones to listen in endgame lol

Portal 2 allows PS3 <-> PC voice chat.

[Antipika]

Theres another issue what i haven't seen mentioned that is a usual complaint about In game VIOP services:

If your game crashes....you loose Coms. Infact you can't even tell people you crashed because....you crashed voice too. Its just not the best system. Sometimes the best functionality comes from not evening every function in one program/client.

Not to mention most VIOP "seems" shall we say, extreamly tacked on. Generally because it is either added later in the games life. Or decided to be done late in development.

Theres more pros and cons, but i'm at work so i'll have to stop here. ^^

Well if you are raiding seriously you would have the mobile phone number of one of your guild mate or raid leader to warn that you cannot log back on for any reason (so you can be replaced). In case of power or internet connection loss, using an external software isn't the right solution.

Also I hope that in ARR, the party monitor will be improved so if someone crash/get DC'd, his name remain in the party monitor, but just grayed out or with a symbol/mention that the player is disconnected. That way, everyone can make the difference between someone leaving a party, someone logging out "the normal way" or someone crashing/being dc'd.

Finally, restarting the game should be done semi-automatically upon crashing and it shouldn't take over a minute (unless you had to reboot your PC).

[Valmonte]

Well if you are raiding seriously you would have the mobile phone number of one of your guild mate or raid leader to warn that you cannot log back on for any reason (so you can be replaced). In case of power or internet connection loss, using an external software isn't the right solution.

Also I hope that in ARR, the party monitor will be improved so if someone crash/get DC'd, his name remain in the party monitor, but just grayed out or with a symbol/mention that the player is disconnected. That way, everyone can make the difference between someone leaving a party, someone logging out "the normal way" or someone crashing/being dc'd.

Finally, restarting the game should be done semi-automatically upon crashing and it shouldn't take over a minute (unless you had to reboot your PC).

Sorry Boss i cant make it to work today, my internets out.....if you take raids that serious, you need serious help.