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    Sometimes I feel like the people who whine about voice chat being a 'requirement' both have no experience with voice chat (and the extremely limited situations where it IS required and 'enforced'), and have crippling social anxiety making them unable to communicate with strangers.
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    The only problem with having an ventrilo/mumble client for the PS3 is that is might open the console to security vulnerability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhalmel View Post
    The only problem with having an ventrilo/mumble client for the PS3 is that is might open the console to security vulnerability.
    What doesn't open it up for security vulnerabilities these days?

    http://instantrimshot.com/
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    Theres another issue what i haven't seen mentioned that is a usual complaint about In game VIOP services:

    If your game crashes....you loose Coms. Infact you can't even tell people you crashed because....you crashed voice too. Its just not the best system. Sometimes the best functionality comes from not evening every function in one program/client.

    Not to mention most VIOP "seems" shall we say, extreamly tacked on. Generally because it is either added later in the games life. Or decided to be done late in development.

    Theres more pros and cons, but i'm at work so i'll have to stop here. ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viritess View Post
    Theres another issue what i haven't seen mentioned that is a usual complaint about In game VIOP services:

    If your game crashes....you loose Coms. Infact you can't even tell people you crashed because....you crashed voice too. Its just not the best system. Sometimes the best functionality comes from not evening every function in one program/client.

    Not to mention most VIOP "seems" shall we say, extreamly tacked on. Generally because it is either added later in the games life. Or decided to be done late in development.

    Theres more pros and cons, but i'm at work so i'll have to stop here. ^^
    Well if you are raiding seriously you would have the mobile phone number of one of your guild mate or raid leader to warn that you cannot log back on for any reason (so you can be replaced). In case of power or internet connection loss, using an external software isn't the right solution.

    Also I hope that in ARR, the party monitor will be improved so if someone crash/get DC'd, his name remain in the party monitor, but just grayed out or with a symbol/mention that the player is disconnected. That way, everyone can make the difference between someone leaving a party, someone logging out "the normal way" or someone crashing/being dc'd.

    Finally, restarting the game should be done semi-automatically upon crashing and it shouldn't take over a minute (unless you had to reboot your PC).
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    Antipika.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipika View Post
    Well if you are raiding seriously you would have the mobile phone number of one of your guild mate or raid leader to warn that you cannot log back on for any reason (so you can be replaced). In case of power or internet connection loss, using an external software isn't the right solution.

    Also I hope that in ARR, the party monitor will be improved so if someone crash/get DC'd, his name remain in the party monitor, but just grayed out or with a symbol/mention that the player is disconnected. That way, everyone can make the difference between someone leaving a party, someone logging out "the normal way" or someone crashing/being dc'd.

    Finally, restarting the game should be done semi-automatically upon crashing and it shouldn't take over a minute (unless you had to reboot your PC).
    Sorry Boss i cant make it to work today, my internets out.....if you take raids that serious, you need serious help.
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    I thought Yoshi said one of the main reasons for not having voice chat in the game was because of sexual harassment. OHH you crazy Japanese.
    To me voice chat only works with smaller groups who play together a lot and RESPECT each other. I think they should revisit the idea of a voice-enabled free company function. Maybe a Grand Company item you have to buy for the free company to enable voice over ip or something.... idk....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irondude View Post
    I thought Yoshi said one of the main reasons for not having voice chat in the game was because of sexual harassment. OHH you crazy Japanese.
    To me voice chat only works with smaller groups who play together a lot and RESPECT each other. I think they should revisit the idea of a voice-enabled free company function. Maybe a Grand Company item you have to buy for the free company to enable voice over ip or something.... idk....
    That's what is being said to us.

    The reality is that having built-in vocal chat = more work for SE and higher upkeep costs. When you rent a Teamspeak/Mumble/Ventrilo server, you pay for a reason, that service has a cost.

    If SE gives you that service for free, it's a pure loss for SE. (All right it's not a HUGE loss, but still, a loss...) Harassment can be avoided simply by not speaking. In a Linkshell/raid, players in a non-leading position can simply listen to their leaders instructions.
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    Touhou 12.5 - Double Spoiler (all clear) : http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=BD180E7054F3C1A2
    Touhou 9.5 - Shoot the Bullet (all clear) : http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=53B01AAE8A03BDD1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irondude View Post
    I thought Yoshi said one of the main reasons for not having voice chat in the game was because of sexual harassment. OHH you crazy Japanese.
    To me voice chat only works with smaller groups who play together a lot and RESPECT each other. I think they should revisit the idea of a voice-enabled free company function. Maybe a Grand Company item you have to buy for the free company to enable voice over ip or something.... idk....
    yep that one of the reason and the other is it going to take to much work to make it work pc<<>>>ps3 and they would need help from sony on it. i just don't see it happening look at wow they don't even use it. But i still think we should have it due to the ps3 users but w/e i guess they have to use laptop and smartphones to listen in endgame lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    yep that one of the reason and the other is it going to take to much work to make it work pc<<>>>ps3 and they would need help from sony on it. i just don't see it happening look at wow they don't even use it. But i still think we should have it due to the ps3 users but w/e i guess they have to use laptop and smartphones to listen in endgame lol
    Portal 2 allows PS3 <-> PC voice chat.
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