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  1. #81
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    Yrusama's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiruke View Post
    Hopefully this isn't a sign of things to come. The constant feedback from the item team that the abysmal drop rates throughout the game are "a-ok" is the single most worrisome thing heading into ARR. I'm fairly certain the only people who would continue playing ARR if everything still takes a ridiculous amount of time and mostly just plain dumb luck (rather than skill) would be a subset of the ones currently suffering through 1.x. Probably a pretty small one unless this mentality becomes a relic of the "old game", and the item team stops feeling that the players need to hate themselves for suffering through this kind of nonsense to get anything, be it of value or not.
    There are those of us who plan on playing the game for years to come regardless of how good it is, but SE needs to realize that if it's still a bad game it will keep us from recommending it to others. I ultimately stopped recommending XI to others because it was a huge time sink before Abyssea and a pathetic shadow of its former self after Abyssea. Word of mouth is worth a lot more than any trailer.

    I completely agree, Hiruke. If enough fans say "this is not fun, please make a SMALL change to make it fun", why don't the devs listen? They should know that paying customers don't like being ignored.

    Use your head people..the game is going off line in a matter of weeks, they're focusing on the relaunch right now so there's literally no need to adjust something that will cease to exist very soon.
    In this particular case, you have a point. Let's just hope that they've learned from this experience. Even with the whole party aware that killing the elites when they go unclaimed does not result in drops, my party yesterday went for about 5 rounds with the Elite group and never got a hat. It's simply too glitchy. Sometimes their names stayed red even after they were technically unclaimed and standing idle.
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    Last edited by Yrusama; 10-11-2012 at 02:08 AM.
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    I'll save you Yoshida!

    /casts Raise

  2. #82
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    Well it was worth trying, I guess the team feels no need in spending some minutes in adjusting the rate, so it is up to us to start bribing players to come help us get the hats... I will keep trying my luck and maybe I get the hats, maybe I don't, hopefully next time they plan the events better, cannot have a event with a super low drop rate, that is meant to be done as a alliance with more than one party (sure it can be done with one by "cheating" the system") and the drop is far from being fair to all allied parties.

    Good luck to all who will keep trying, and thank you for the feedback (positive or negative).
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  3. #83
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    I dunno how much I can support this feeling of angst from most of you. I do agree that SE drop rate on a lot of items tends to be piss-poor. I do think that skill based drops vs time/endurance/quantity-of-kills based drops needs to be adjusted. Id rather not get an item cause im not good enough rather than I'm not lucky enough or didn't put in enough time. In other words Id rather a mob, NM, dungeon, be more difficult with a higher drop rate than the same be easy with a low drop rate.

    To throw the curve I would like to add however I can in no way complain about the drop rate of these hats. In roughly 6 hours of farming (2hrs + 4hrs) across two different invasions I witnessed 7 tricornes and 3 hats drop. Sadly my rolls were not enough enough (i had my 89 beat by a 94 >.>) Maybe it was freak luck? Until I throw in 2-4 hours of farming and not a single drop I cant really complain.

    Areas farmed in were Coerthas and Thanalan. Had 5 tricornes and 2 hats drop in Coerthas (2hours). 2 tricornes and 1 hat drop in Thanalan (4 hours).
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  4. #84
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    Not sure if our LS just had good luck one night but, we had hat drops for everyone in our PT minus one and they got theirs the next day. So unless something has changed, the drop rate for this event is better than any other. Usually, I'm all about a slightly better rate but in this post I'll have to disagree and wish you luck.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geesus View Post
    Not sure if our LS just had good luck one night but, we had hat drops for everyone in our PT minus one and they got theirs the next day. So unless something has changed, the drop rate for this event is better than any other. Usually, I'm all about a slightly better rate but in this post I'll have to disagree and wish you luck.
    Could be a change, but you have to be careful with that blanket statement. RNG is RNG.

    You can flip a coin and get heads 10 times in a row and then one time it takes 1,000 tries.

    Until they make a better loot system you dont really know its a good drop rate by that case alone.

    So, just because it was kind to you doesnt mean its cool to say screw everyone else it was perfect for me.


    (The inverse could be said, I've farmed it 12 group kills no drops - so its not that awesome).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 10-11-2012 at 09:25 AM.

  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Could be a change, but you have to be careful with that blanket statement. RNG is RNG.

    You can flip a coin and get heads 10 times in a row and then one time it takes 1,000 tries.

    Until they make a better loot system you dont really know its a good drop rate by that case alone.

    So, just because it was kind to you doesnt mean its cool to say screw everyone else it was perfect for me.
    Like I said, maybe it was just us for once scoring big. lol Not really a "blanket" statement as one of fact for our LS; not speaking for anyone else.

    And wow, pretty sure I didn't say screw anyone else.

    On the other hand, nice to know that there are still some in this community that like to put words in others mouths and are straight assholes.
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geesus View Post
    Like I said, maybe it was just us for once scoring big. lol Not really a "blanket" statement as one of fact for our LS; not speaking for anyone else.

    And wow, pretty sure I didn't say screw anyone else.

    On the other hand, nice to know that there are still some in this community that like to put words in others mouths and are straight assholes.
    Nice to see people in the community thinks smile faces means they are a nice person instead of a straight asshole .

    Yes I was being liberal in the quote "I'm going to have to say no" in really rough translation is screw everyone else I got what I wanted and at good speed. As that is what you said.

    There is a difference between adding meaning, and just retooling the words with same meaning.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 10-11-2012 at 09:24 AM.

  8. #88
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    Im from Gungnir Server, already have my 2 hats, i be camping and forming groups for who still needs them and makin a list to keep it going, helpin aleviate the stress behind this quest for everyone, if you need people for it, sent me a /tell in game and will add your name to a list, for when event be up i will call you up and form group for this.
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  9. #89
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    What makes some of you think there WON'T be similar hats to be found at the launch of ARR?
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  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rubicon View Post
    What makes some of you think there WON'T be similar hats to be found at the launch of ARR?
    Well..unless ARR starts with Garleans invading..I don't see why there would even be alternatives at the launch, let alone something in the same category.
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