If SE is taking away my hard work...

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Yes, but in 2.0, 10m is the equivalent of 100m in 1.0. Nobody in their right mind would pay that price for the item.

I was talking about NPC prices. Player prices won't go down to exactly 1/10th of what they are now. They will go down though as EVERYONE will have reduced gil and anyone with half a brain won't be buying things at the 1.0 prices. If they do, let them waste all of their money quickly so prices can start going down. Anyone who wants to sell to new players won't be able to use 1.0 prices as they simply won't be able to afford items at that price. The smart seller would take this into account and price them reasonably for all players.

With or without the denomination of gil we'd have to re-evaluate prices for 2.0 anyway. The function and demand of items will change in response to the changes they're making.

This is very frustrating, please quote me where I said people will buy items in 2.0 at 1.0 prices? PLEASE quote me.

I think you will find I have constantly said prices will not go down to 1/10th over and over.

If an item is 10m. You all seem to think it will eventually become 1m. What if it never does? My argument is about this what if with the prediction it wont. If it goes to 1m and 1 Gil, you have lost 1 Gil. That is what my argument is about.

I NEVER ONCE said prices will stay at 1.0 values, I am stating they will NOT be 1/10th and thus I consider the amount it does not reduce by is a loss.

eg: 10m to 1m item 10m to 3m, loss 2m.

Now I will be wrong if items go to 1/10th (ONLY items of 1.0, items of 2.0 can be as expensive as they like, they are valued to their attributes). If items of 1.0 go down to 1/10th or less in 5 years, I have been proven wrong. Does not matter how long it takes because my theory, my prediction is it never will, not at the start, not 1month after, not 5 years after.

both sides are feeling their way. you either feel prices will al drop to 10% of their previous price or you believe prices will drop to different %' after in which you may can buy more or you can buy less. both sides are assuming their way is correct, but neither has any facts to back it up. how do i figure neither side has facts? there's multiple reasons prices will change come 2.0.

1. new players entering the game. with new players entering the game you will have an increased demand for items which will directly change the supply available and the cost of each item.

2. new items entering the game. with new items coming into the game the demand for some "great items" now will drop due to the fact they become less coveted. if something new comes out that's better than previous the values will change.

3. overall market instability. when a conversion change happens there's always a short term instability it causes. yes, the markets eventually stabilize, but rarely are they eve at the exact conversion rate. items may jump to 500% of their previous value for a short time and then drop consistently until they find the new value to stop on. some may wind up dropping to 5% of their previous value and some may raise in value(notice i didn't say price, but value). those that raise in value will drop in price due to the 90% reduction in overall gil, but they will not drop to the estimated 10% of their previous cost.

4. changes to the gear/materia values. with the upcoming changes to the amount of stats you can get from gear that uper weapon may become next to worthless due to the upcoming changes. the value of materia could switch from one type of materia being wanted to another that nobody wants atm.

5. lack of information. with everything being so hidden as far as specifics nobody can guess what will be increasing in price and what will be dropping. none of us know what will decrease in value nor what will increase due do the upcoming changes.

6. anyone that claims they know that every price will be exactly 10% to sell or that nothing will drop are completely clueless.

the key is prices and values will change. sure you may not be able to buy exactly the same amount of one item in 2.0, but you may be able to buy 10x as many of another item. values in items will change, but they are not due to just gill changes. many other factors will affect the changes in values of items.

I respect you so much for that post, taking in consideration for what is being said and clearly defining a very good argument for both, thank you. Your number 5 is very vital, it is the reason people like the OP are panicking.