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    Punainen's Avatar
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    Punainen Drak
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    I thought it was against the rules to predict stuff here? I am pretty sure there will be Gil sinks, just as I'm sure SE have thought about every little thing and avoided possible money making schemes.



    Jesus lmao, I am not saying the situation is fact, I am saying the Math is fact.

    The FACT: If item prices reduce only 1/5th of what they are now, you've lost a 4th of your gil, WEATHER THIS WILL HAPPEN OR NOT IS NOT FACT, THE AMOUNT LOST IS.

    Please say you understand this, Nothing of what I am saying is saying what will happen is fact, my facts are the illustration of past events which HAVE happened, and that IF situation X Happens, THE FACT is you lost Y money on that situation. No where am I saying the situation will happen, I PREDICT it will happen.

    Let me repeat...

    IF the situation, where items do not reduce down to the same ratio of gil reduction, you are losing money. The situation MAY or MAY NOT happen, I never said that is fact. IF the situation occurs that items do not reduce to 1/10th ever, you have lost money.
    I agree. Its a basic issue of the human condition. People are greedy. People used to raking in millions will still want to have the feel of the large numbers and will try to rake in large numbers. A lot of people (obviously not all, but a lot) base what is 'expensive' or not based on how large the number looks in comparison to how badly they want the item.

    If the number on the screen makes NO difference, WHY re-denominate at all?? And its a basic fact of economies everywhere... When money becomes more scarce, prices don't drop, in fact they go UP. If money is plentiful, they may also go up, but it wont hold the same sting as the rise in price when money is short. Because when money is short, people want to make more, faster, because the buyer may be short, but so is the seller.

    The seller will take as much as possible from the buyer, ALWAYS. There is absolutely NOTHING in psychology (nor economics for that matter) that would predict a likelihood that player controlled prices will drop to 1/10th... And when and if they do not, we will have all lost substantial buying power.

    I again, present the question...if they really don't expect buying power to change....WHY are they changing it?? There is literally no upside to the re-denomination. Best case scenario is nothing changes. Worst case scenario is massive inflation. So why do it??
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    So when we go into ARR with 10% of our currency and then an item begins to drop over 1-2 months to 1/10th, guess what? PEOPLE HAVE EARNED MONEY IN THAT TIME. Why are people so blind to see this?
    Only if someone buyed it in this time
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    It's troll server when Agoven isn't posting LOL. I thought max gil was going to 99,999,999...everything is dropping 1/10 EVERYTHING. So um yeah...no problem from anyone. If you don't understand the meaning of everything and calling it unfair you need to go back to grade school...rather kindergarten.
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    I am a little guilty of this myself - it's psychology demoralizing, visually, to see the millions of gil rendered to a couple million or several 100,000s. Just have to accept it and move on.

    So glad I have two of the three Land at 50 along with two crafting classes. Hopefully it shouldn't take long to get back into my millions post-2.0.
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    ya there is no sense crying about it SE is gonna do it no matter what so better get use to it.
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    People need to stop looking at it like, "Oh shucks, my gil is disappearing. QQ" and need to start looking at it like, "My gil is worth more and I can hold more gil. ^^"
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    Gentlemen... BEHOLD!


    You know what's SO hilarious about all this.. It's like everyone expects the game to be the same.. All the "HOT" items ppl go for now, ppl still will be HOT later on... why bother adding new areas & dungeons when ppl are stuck in the past? Remind me again if Iphone 2g and Iphone 5g are same price? Oh yeah a thing called progression. Wait what was that? Nbdy wants ur piece of crap old gear anymore? *shocked face*

    Rare/EX owns joo?

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    "But there's no sense crying over every mistake, you just keep on trying til you run out of cake...~"
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    I guess underlining it twice in the topics post wasn't enough. They should have bold'd it, made it 20pt and pink.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 10-08-2012 at 11:46 AM.

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    Noctis Umbra
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    Oh look this again. Let's sum this up shall we?

    SE is not taking any wealth from anybody. They are redenominating.

    Prices in 2.0 will drop drastically. That is inevitable. However it is just as foolish to say that they will balance at exactly 10% of what they are now as it is to say they will remain the same as current prices.

    Nobody can say for a fact how prices will be in ARR. Any predictions are baseless as this point beyond prices dropping. Too much is changing in the game and the market will change drastically primarily due to these changes, not the redenomination.

    If one is quitting because one can't comprehend what a redenomination is, and refuses to educate oneself, then godspeed.
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