Luminary Tools ... are not any good :|

[Onisake]

2.0 is mixing everything up. For all anyone knows, they could suddenly become marginally better than double melds.

Given how difficult they are to get...i don't think a double meld is a good comparison. you can get a good double meld for like 3-4m. or roughly a day of hard farming.

given how difficult they are to get, and the hours required to get them, i'd say it should be worth at least a solid tripple meld.

you have to gather about 21,960 times to get one. Fishing would be the easiest one to obtain, because at least you don't have to run around a ton between nodes. you can find one body and sit.

but even if you are getting 2 catches a minute. you're looking at around 183 hours of fishing. and that's lowballing it by a pretty extreme amount, because it's assuming perfect catches every time. you're probably looking more along the lines of 250 hours. to me that sounds like it should be DAMN near relic status. given that gathering classes don't' really have relics. the luminary stuff should be right up there.

given that crafting is FAR far easier to get and the stats between the two are comparable, it certainly doesn't seem fair to the DoLs.

Saying achievement rewards are not meant to be the best thing ever is fine. but why can't they be? who dictated that all achievement rewards have to be crappy town gear? that's like saying these tools are for botters only because they're the only ones that would actually attempt it given the crappy stats and the amount of time you need to invest.

[Venat]

Gold tools should have a special bonus to them. Something like... Materia Meld+1% or..

Randomly increases Quility during standard/careful/rapid etc. The Increase would be like +10% but 1/4 chance.

[Xenor]

Gold tools should have a special bonus to them. Something like... Materia Meld+1% or..

Randomly increases Quility during standard/careful/rapid etc. The Increase would be like +10% but 1/4 chance.

No thanks. Let's not give the botters any more advantages.

I am hoping for crafting/gathering AF tools in ARR that makes these gold tools worthless.

[Fated]

Not everyone botted to get one, but, okay champ.

[Xenor]

I never said they did, but I'm sure 95% of them did and that's enough reason to not give them super bonuses. Crafting is boring enough as it is without performing 6000 synths or whatever for no benefit just to get a shiny tool. Most people will bot that, just because they can. Most of the rest will bot it just because they feel screwed over by SE not taking into account any synths they performed to get to 50.

[Andrien]

I never said they did, but I'm sure 95% of them did and that's enough reason to not give them super bonuses. Crafting is boring enough as it is without performing 6000 synths or whatever for no benefit just to get a shiny tool. Most people will bot that, just because they can. Most of the rest will bot it just because they feel screwed over by SE not taking into account any synths they performed to get to 50.

I don't usually comment on assumptions, and speculations but can you prove the validity of your induction?

[Xenor]

I don't usually comment on assumptions, and speculations but can you prove the validity of your induction?

Can you prove me wrong? I mean, what kind of question is that? Everyone knows the crafting scene was riddled with botters and still is, so it's a fair assumption to make. However without installing a CCTV camera infront of every player's screen it's impossible to "prove" one way or the other. Surely you understand this?

[Sartori]

Actually the Pick of the Luminary isn't that bad stat wise. Its better then my current single melded pick +1 which has one perception +5 on it. I would have to meld another perception, a gathering, and a vitality to come close, and the Luminary also has +10 mind.

[Rak_Boy]

If its for SHOW as some of u said so ..
They should at least make it easier to get .. rather than spending days and gils for something isnt 1/3 good

[TohruHonda]

I use my Luminary alc tool over a melded one cause it looks hawt.