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    Player Andrien's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    I never said they did, but I'm sure 95% of them did and that's enough reason to not give them super bonuses. Crafting is boring enough as it is without performing 6000 synths or whatever for no benefit just to get a shiny tool. Most people will bot that, just because they can. Most of the rest will bot it just because they feel screwed over by SE not taking into account any synths they performed to get to 50.
    I don't usually comment on assumptions, and speculations but can you prove the validity of your induction?
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    Last edited by Andrien; 10-06-2012 at 09:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    I don't usually comment on assumptions, and speculations but can you prove the validity of your induction?
    Can you prove me wrong? I mean, what kind of question is that? Everyone knows the crafting scene was riddled with botters and still is, so it's a fair assumption to make. However without installing a CCTV camera infront of every player's screen it's impossible to "prove" one way or the other. Surely you understand this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    Can you prove me wrong? I mean, what kind of question is that? Everyone knows the crafting scene was riddled with botters and still is, so it's a fair assumption to make. However without installing a CCTV camera infront of every player's screen it's impossible to "prove" one way or the other. Surely you understand this?
    Without evading, how can you prove this?
    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    I'm sure 95% of them did
    It is more beneficial if there is irrefutable evidence for those claims. Surely you understand the point I'm trying to make.
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    Last edited by Andrien; 10-06-2012 at 11:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    Without evading, how can you prove this?


    It is more beneficial if there is irrefutable evidence for those claims. Surely you understand the point I'm trying to make.
    He is right. Lots of people botted to get em. No need to reward bots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renen View Post
    He is right. Lots of people botted to get em. No need to reward bots.
    The bots also make gold and levels, so trying to go all "anti" bot wont work either. For those "humans" that did this achiev it would be rather disappointing to see a "meh" shitty item.

    If they want to give a crappy item because of bots, dont even give an item in the first place. Waste our inventory space.


    That being said I would like to see some of the achievements less tally related - perhaps some require some quest lines and such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    The bots also make gold and levels, so trying to go all "anti" bot wont work either. For those "humans" that did this achiev it would be rather disappointing to see a "meh" shitty item.

    If they want to give a crappy item because of bots, dont even give an item in the first place. Waste our inventory space.


    That being said I would like to see some of the achievements less tally related - perhaps some require some quest lines and such.
    I would like to give u 10x Thumbs up

    all what ppl are talking about botters...
    there're ppl out there working hard to get them .. they should remove them if its worthless and good for botter only :/
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