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    I'm really starting to hate Square's "Baby with the bathwater" approach to XIV
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    Last edited by Jocko; 10-03-2012 at 05:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferth View Post
    But they do crash, they require maintenance and they require dedicated servers to run. It doesn't matter that their servers don't directly affect other servers. That they need servers at all is the problem.
    But auction houses don't require resources or maintenance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyretta_Blaze View Post
    But auction houses don't require resources or maintenance?
    They will but not as many resources as the wards do. Which is what makes the current ward system wasteful.
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    I love how people say "because its used as storage"
    But why not just make it impossible to use for storage?
    I dont often check bazaar simply because i know that 90% of items there are priced 99999999 gil.
    But if u couldn't use em as storage, maybe people would use em to actually sell things?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renen View Post
    I love how people say "because its used as storage"
    But why not just make it impossible to use for storage?
    I dont often check bazaar simply because i know that 90% of items there are priced 99999999 gil.
    But if u couldn't use em as storage, maybe people would use em to actually sell things?
    i don't think so
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  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferth View Post
    They will but not as many resources as the wards do. Which is what makes the current ward system wasteful.
    You do know Auction House and search systems in general are usually on their own servers...right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferth View Post
    They will but not as many resources as the wards do. Which is what makes the current ward system wasteful.
    They are taking measures to make it more efficient (both in processing and useability) and they'll also be integrating the wards, which will more or less do away with one of the biggest issues they have right now: "The area you designated is full."

    Also, the poster above is right- Each "server" is actually a cluster of server machines that each handle different areas and/or tasks. The market wards are on their own server machine.
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferth View Post
    But they do crash, they require maintenance and they require dedicated servers to run. It doesn't matter that their servers don't directly affect other servers. That they need servers at all is the problem.
    The only thing that's being suggested is one of the interface we use. Whether it's 3d modeled NPCs, or some board we go to with the same data presented differently won't change the fact that those servers can encounter problems. It's all the same data, that data needs to be stored somewhere, that storage requires a server.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    You do know Auction House and search systems in general are usually on their own servers...right?
    I do know that. But do those servers need to be able to support hundreds of npcs and players that need to be rendered should someone decide to visit them? that requires a bit of a beefier server than something that just supports menu coding and item lists.
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    As molly said, no matter what kind of market system you use, it is an intensive process and also reqires significant data storage. No market system is lightweight enough to avoid these requirements.
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