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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Keep going shooting down people's opinions *thumbs up*
    You could also consider gravity an opinion as well................................ just saying.

    You are digging yourself deep, real deep my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    You could also consider gravity an opinion as well................................ just saying.

    You are digging yourself deep, real deep my friend.
    Gravity is a fact because there are "Sources" behind those facts. Talking about Graphical changes there is no source behind it, just opinions and based assumptions. If you can find an "SE" source that says that these Graphical Changes looks "cartoony" then I will admit I was wrong and admit they are facts, till then they are opinions and nothing more than opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Gravity is a fact because there are "Sources" behind those facts. Talking about Graphical changes there is no source behind it, just opinions and based assumptions. If you can find an "SE" source that says that these Graphical Changes looks "cartoony" then I will admit I was wrong and admit they are facts, till then they are opinions and nothing more than opinions.
    Have you really never heard the terms "Water Shader" or "Fur Shader"? I understand you're sticking to your "opinions" however I promise you game designers using shaders isn't an opinion or people making assumptions lol. Look at the sig you're touting -- There's shaders being used for the hair alone. The whole "Looks cartoony" thing is because of the plastic look which could be due to the lack of shaders and appropriate lighting or because of the stiffness of characters.

    Trust me, I know the phrase ignorance is bliss, but you're basically telling people it's only an opinion when as Rokien said, you could consider Gravity an opinion if you use that line of thinking -- You say "gravity is fact", so is the use of shaders to make the water look realistic or hair to move properly.

    Honestly Starlord, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shader just read this and maybe you'll understand what other people are saying when they mention this word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Gravity is a fact because there are "Sources" behind those facts. Talking about Graphical changes there is no source behind it, just opinions and based assumptions. If you can find an "SE" source that says that these Graphical Changes looks "cartoony" then I will admit I was wrong and admit they are facts, till then they are opinions and nothing more than opinions.
    Curious. What are your sources that you need to determine that Graphic is "fact", if we're experiencing it everyday?

    Speaking of sources, if we're speaking of the latest trailer that has the 'cartoony' look, SE, themselves, stated that the trailer is old, and does not look as intended, (since you want this) as sourced here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/54815-TGS-Trailer-ahoy%21?p=836726&viewfull=1#post836726

    Producer/Director Yoshida here.

    The assets used to create the trailer were actually older than what was shown during last week's Letter from the Producer Live. Also, depending on the area shown, the lighting, as well as hair, neck movement, and facial properties are still being adjusted.

    The time period in which these assets were taken was within the scope of what we planned; however, clearly the stuttering of the video was not intended and we're currently investigating this. Today, well I guess yesterday, I went to the Tokyo Game Show floor to see it in person, but since the trailer playing there didn't have any problems, the possibility that this is an encoding-related problem is quite high.

    I apologize for such a rudimentary mistake, but once we figure out what caused it, we'll be sure to let you know.
    Finally. Maybe you don't have good eyesight, but people can clearly see that the graphic isn't perfect and needs improvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    You could also consider gravity an opinion as well................................ just saying.
    Gravity is a self-evident fact. An opinion could only be given about how it works exactly.

    How a game looks to you is completely subjective, and your opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faiyez View Post
    Gravity is a self-evident fact. An opinion could only be given about how it works exactly.

    How a game looks to you is completely subjective, and your opinion.
    You do know gravity is a theory lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    You do know gravity is a theory lol
    Gravity is a fact in that it exists. The theory of gravity is how it exists/why. *

    Like we understand that all masses have gravity, you have a gravity its just tiny.. Now make theories onto why you produce a gravitational field.

    * This is as long as you prescribe to a general thought process. Some people here could go and be like "but do we even exist, the world is a hologram in the imagination of a kid created by gods on the toilet"
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