New NMs

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Ixion and Sandworm were sort of like that. People still camped them.

As said before. Bots don't work.

Also, no one is forcing you to wake up at 4 am and camp it.

ixion was funny not much of an nm realy imo.

2 yes bots still happen they just tweeked their programs under the new claim rules


3 99% of the time a king spawn time was between 12am-6am. It was rare to have it during US time. I took time exploring the game when I hit 75 and went to the king pop areas never seen them up in the US morning. And I visited them regulary.

[Zkieve]

You should understand that most HNM ls's are very large, given some people play much more than others, but its not always the same people around the clock, they invite people in most timezones so its always there ls getting drops, they take care of there own.

Even though i would love 21-24hr respawns with 1hr windows, 3hrs wasnt bad either. Do you really think we sat there for 3hrs strait? Even though its a 3hr window total, the actual windows were 30min's appart, people would do homework/eat dinner/spend time with familly then for 2 min's watch the screen and pay attention, if something popped, they take 5-10min's to kill then do w/e.

I dont think ive seen the 30min windows mentioned once.

The game isnt heading into a direction to cater big linkshells.Whatever i or you agree or not makes no difference.
Look at the current changes, you will see what i mean.

[Jeronlmo]

You cant want the best gear in the game and be against camping and for long respawns, atleast if getting the best gear in the game involves NM's. If your solution is the random spawning of mobs anywhere in the game with no pattern of any kind, you sir, will never see the gear i promise you.

[Poipori]

If someone only has to run around collecting super mario coins to get the best gear then everyone will have it. It's not the point of the time spent, it's the rarity along with the commitment.

It does NOT need to be collecting currencies, another example would be putting a super tough HNM like absolute virtue as final boss of an instance(with 72hr reenter time, same like hnm respawn) which will drop the best gear in game.

That way, the best gear will still be rare even among the elites, and there will still be commitment needed to find ways and gear up to kill it.

Bottom line is, there is no need for mindless, time wasting camping of nm.

[Zkieve]

You cant want the best gear in the game and be against camping and for long respawns, atleast if getting the best gear in the game involves NM's. If your solution is the random spawning of mobs anywhere in the game with no pattern of any kind, you sir, will never see the gear i promise you.

If the mob is hard enough to be super difficult with a party of 8 , it is possible.Like i said, please notice the direction the game is taking.

[Jeronlmo]

Sounds like your asking for abyssea in ff14, you dont want big groups that takes strategy, you want to duo all but 3 mobs in the game (Pugilist+Thaum).

New thread asking for Primal Brews otw.

[Visch]

It does NOT need to be collecting currencies, another example would be putting a super tough HNM like absolute virtue as final boss of an instance(with 72hr reenter time, same like hnm respawn) which will drop the best gear in game.

That way, the best gear will still be rare even among the elites, and there will still be commitment needed to find ways and gear up to kill it.

Bottom line is, there is no need for mindless, time wasting camping of nm.

If it's killable anyone will be able to kill it which means the gear won't be limited and also there will be no competition.

[Zkieve]

Sounds like your asking for abyssea in ff14, you dont want big groups that takes strategy, you want to duo all but 3 mobs in the game (Pugilist+Thaum).

New thread asking for Primal Brews otw.

eh not asking for anything. Im mainly just saying you should look the direction the game is heading . no game is gonna cater to all kind of players and ffxiv is not the exception, at least not in a short time spawn(ffxi might be more balanced for diferent type of gamers but that took what 10 years to achive?).Some people should just realize the game is not catering to them anymore.I might fall into this category , maybe.

edit; going to the movie to watch earth invasion .Thanks for the discussion i enjoyed it.
Cheers.

[Arcell]

I think this is quite ridiculous, asking for 24-hour NMs


Everyone finds it incredibly easy to forget the fact that Dynamis Lord Loot was harder to Acquire than most every 24 hour HNM, HQ Version or not.


Dynamis Lord loot wasn't hard to acquire because it was on a random ass spawn timer, in fact you could challenge him any time you wanted to. But it really required a lot of work to get to him, and once you reached him it was pretty challenging to defeat him, especially as a solo LS who could only pull maybe ~40 members max in your Dynamis.




I would LOVE Content to match this movement, Along with the entire Sea system, Where you find items to pop first tier, who drop second tier pop items etc.

Or just do Dungeons, Aion took an interesting approach where sometimes when you ran a dungeon the "HQ" Version of a boss would spawn. I thought that was extremely clever and a cool mix of the FFXI System and the WoW Dungeon system.




There are many routes to take for exciting new content, and 24-hour highly contest pop NMs are a thing of the past, and add almost nothing to gameplay.

^this. Challenge > time spent waiting

[Jeronlmo]

There used to be a similar argument in ff11 about needing less people to do events.

Something like a party of 6 should be able to do anything, simply make things weaker so a party of 6 can kill it but still be hard. The problem is, if 6 people can kill something, its not hard, even if its hard for you, it took almost no cooperation with others and most likely very little strategy. Something that would take 18 people and still be hard is many many times more difficult.
You only having 5 friends shouldnt be my problem either.