Party size reduction a good change?

[TheVedis]

I agree, I thought the sp penalty for more then 8 worked just fine

it works for limiting sp parties and things along those lines yes


but they are looking at actual content now and 15 man parties will create horrible balance in that compared to that of a smaller variety
thats the true purpose of this change

[Vackashken]

it works for limiting sp parties and things along those lines yes


but they are looking at actual content now and 15 man parties will create horrible balance in that compared to that of a smaller variety
thats the true purpose of this change

What are you on about? Did 18 man parties cause horrible imbalances in 11? Again, my contention is they need to add alliances so people with LS's that hunt NMs can actually ban together and do the only thing in the game that actually gives us a reason to group up.

Party SP needed to be cut down for sure. Hell, I think it should go to the traditional 6 man group. However, again I say, if they cut off the only reason to party together in a worthwhile aspect then they're cutting off their noses to spite their face - again.

As it is right now, you don't need 16 members to take down these lol'NMs but at least its something.

[TheVedis]

What are you on about? Did 18 man parties cause horrible imbalances in 11? Again, my contention is they need to add alliances so people with LS's that hunt NMs can actually ban together and do the only thing in the game that actually gives us a reason to group up.

Party SP needed to be cut down for sure. Hell, I think it should go to the traditional 6 man group. However, again I say, if they cut off the only reason to party together in a worthwhile aspect then they're cutting off their noses to spite their face - again.

As it is right now, you don't need 16 members to take down these lol'NMs but at least its something.

18 man parties?
or do you mean 6 man parties 3 of them combined into an alliance

you see they can still add this sort of thing, but limiting the BASE party size is what they are doing right now

[Vackashken]

18 man parties?
or do you mean 6 man parties 3 of them combined into an alliance

you see they can still add this sort of thing, but limiting the BASE party size is what they are doing right now

Yes, I did say alliance in what you quoted me and also explained thats my only concern. Making parties 16 man I complained about from day 1. However, unless SE says the word alliance I have been well trained by them to expect the worse.

[TheVedis]

Yes, I did say alliance in what you quoted me and also explained thats my only concern. Making parties 16 man I complained about from day 1. However, unless SE says the word alliance I have been well trained by them to expect the worse.

at this point im more inclined to "wait and see" where they go with all this rather then assume anything
remember, these are the start of changes being made, not the end all

so there is going to be more behind it coming up and we shall see it all as it gets added

[Vackashken]

at this point im more inclined to "wait and see" where they go with all this rather then assume anything
remember, these are the start of changes being made, not the end all

so there is going to be more behind it coming up and we shall see it all as it gets added

All I have to say is I hope you're right.

[TheVedis]

All I have to say is I hope you're right.

i dont have to be right or wrong, its already been stated many times in letter from the producers whats going on

we know for a fact these are the starts of changes to the combat system(as stated in the last letter)