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    Preypacer's Avatar
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    Perrina Avolara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Chances are the only add-ons I'll be using will be cosmetic only. If anything I'll use UI add-ons to remove HUD info when it's in the way.
    This is what I'm hoping for.

    Leave the crutches and training-wheels out of the game's more challenging content, please.

    Addons like DBM are never necessary so long as people are willing to pay attention, learn the fights and actually attempt to improve. The problem lies in the fact that many people don't want to do that. They want the game to be as easy as possible. They want the win to be as guaranteed as they can make it. And if using an add-on to spoon-feed them the info that they would normally have to learn and pick up on by playing the game gets them their win/loot faster.. then that's all they care about.

    My favorite rationalization is when people say something like "all the add-ons do is bring functionality into the game that the devs forgot to add and should have been there to begin with". Are you freaking kidding me? Because "you" (you being the people who use such ridiculous arguments) need a crutch to succeed at certain game content doesn't mean it's "missing from the game". It means you need a crutch to succeed at certain game content that is otherwise do-able without it.
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    Last edited by Preypacer; 09-26-2012 at 08:05 AM.

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    Rui Oran
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preypacer View Post
    Leave the crutches and training-wheels out of the game's more challenging content, please.
    We should get rid of Relics and Darklight then, those are crutches. So are double melds.

    Come on scrubs single melded Cobalt Claws step it up.
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    Jeronlmo Sai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruisu View Post
    We should get rid of Relics and Darklight then, those are crutches. So are double melds.

    Come on scrubs single melded Cobalt Claws step it up.
    Should just delete all code in the game, its a crutch, blank screen ftw. Just use your imagination.

    Your an idiot.
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    Rui Oran
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronlmo View Post
    Should just delete all code in the game, its a crutch, blank screen ftw. Just use your imagination.

    Your an idiot.
    WELL, IF MY AN IDIOT. THEN YOUR A DENSE.
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    Garoden Skye
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    you don't know that you're supposed to get out of fire? are you really being told what to do?

    from my perspective it looks like it's largely a matter of presentation.

    and even if it weren't a matter of only presentation (if you are indeed getting some kind of hints), where would the value added data come from? from another player.

    how would they find out? from testing without the aid of the addon. it amounts to essentially the same thing as you watching a video and reading a guide, finding out what every text cue means, and then reading the combat log. same story, different presentation.

    and in the end, you can choose not to use it. you can also choose not to watch guides. if your ls doesn't like it, you can choose to join a ls that doesn't care. just as you can choose not to filter or read your filtered combat log, and join a ls that doesn't care that you do this. it's really the same situation as you have now, with the separation of a difference in presentation
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    Last edited by Promethevs; 09-26-2012 at 09:28 AM.