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    Fusional, your post where you compare DBM to food and potions seems like a bad comparison.
    Food - put into game by devs to help you with fights (fights that are made take into account that you use food)
    DBM - Made by players (developers do not make the boss fights around the fact that you use the addon)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renen View Post
    Fusional, your post where you compare DBM to food and potions seems like a bad comparison.
    Food - put into game by devs to help you with fights (fights that are made take into account that you use food)
    DBM - Made by players (developers do not make the boss fights around the fact that you use the addon)
    DBM is not possible without the devs opening up the API, and actually, WOW devs DO tune the fights around people using DBM. That's why hard modes are generally impossible without the addons, but normal modes are doable without.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    DBM is not possible without the devs opening up the API, and actually, WOW devs DO tune the fights around people using DBM. That's why hard modes are generally impossible without the addons, but normal modes are doable without.
    I find is stupid making a fight that requires a 3rd party addon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renen View Post
    I find is stupid making a fight that requires a 3rd party addon
    And that is why they make two versions of the fights; one for bad players who don't want to prepare, and one for the hardcores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    And that is why they make two versions of the fights; one for bad players who don't want to prepare, and one for the hardcores.
    Just because you dont use 3rd party addons makes you bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renen View Post
    Just because you dont use 3rd party addons makes you bad?
    If you purposely under prepare, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renen View Post
    Fusional, your post where you compare DBM to food and potions seems like a bad comparison.
    Food - put into game by devs to help you with fights (fights that are made take into account that you use food)
    DBM - Made by players (developers do not make the boss fights around the fact that you use the addon)
    food isn't mandatory. neither is DBM. and regardless- i went on to compare it to other things NOT put in the game by devs, such as online guides and videos. the bottom line is that all those things are optional, and it's up to you whether you use it or not.

    as far as developers not making boss fights around the existence of mods, how do you explain the exponential surge in raid difficulty from early vanilla to the end of vanilla? boss mods didn't exist for the game's launch. they existed before AQ40. and then the game got progressively harder every patch in TBC, peaking around sunwell-ulduar (late TBC thru mid Wrath). anyone who has played WoW will tell you Alone in the Darkness and Firefighter would have been categorically impossible without mods. and you deign to believe that devs didn't design the fights with that in mind?
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    Last edited by fusional; 09-25-2012 at 08:20 AM.