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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    People seem to love to argue for the sake of it recently. Starting to feel the forums are becoming obsolete. Good Arguments are now becoming " My opinions are facts" or " You disagree with me well your opinion sucks". But it's okay as long as SE takes their time to get this game right before releasing it personally I'll be happy. I don't want them rushing it like the last time.
    You're not as rude as some people, I commend you for being civil most of the time, but you do love to take part in these arguments and essentially help make them thrive. So I find this comment a bit ironic.

    The trick is to just state your opinion and leave it at that. The discussions would have been so much more productive if people just accepted that everyone's allowed to have an opinion, whether it is a reasonable or an outrageous one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mug View Post
    You're not as rude as some people, I commend you for being civil most of the time, but you do love to take part in these arguments and essentially help make them thrive. So I find this comment a bit ironic.

    The trick is to just state your opinion and leave it at that. The discussions would have been so much more productive if people just accepted that everyone's allowed to have an opinion, whether it is a reasonable or an outrageous one.
    Yeah, I know that I help make those arguments, but its kinda hard to not argue when 30-50 other people want to keep pushing the issue, my problem is knowing when to back away weather i'm right or wrong. ( I try to work on that).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Yeah, I know that I help make those arguments, but its kinda hard to not argue when 30-50 other people want to keep pushing the issue, my problem is knowing when to back away weather i'm right or wrong. ( I try to work on that).
    Its honestly not worth arguing with people who seem to have their mind made up >.< I mostly try to just state my opinion..respect others and move along. I'll only speak up if someone is extremely out of line or if I have a source of something people are stating as "facts" when indeed they are wrong and do not bother to post any source with their "facts" heh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Yeah, I know that I help make those arguments, but its kinda hard to not argue when 30-50 other people want to keep pushing the issue, my problem is knowing when to back away weather i'm right or wrong. ( I try to work on that).
    It also don't help when people attempt to distort or misrepresent your opinions, or a given situation, with strawman arguments and red-herrings. That's one thing I can not stand, personally. Disagree with me all you want, but disagree with what I'm actually saying, not what you've contorted and distorted my statements into. Disagree with a situation all you want, but argue against it based on the actual merits, not on a conveniently distorted version of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Yeah, I know that I help make those arguments, but its kinda hard to not argue when 30-50 other people want to keep pushing the issue, my problem is knowing when to back away weather i'm right or wrong. ( I try to work on that).
    Trust me, I do look at what people say sometimes and think "what the hell?". But the only good way to counter things like that, is to just ignore people who act like idiots and rather talk to people who are actually interested in a healthy discussion (they do exist, even if they're not as vocal). Otherwise it just ends up as being a battle of the egos, and is just wasted energy, really.
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