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    Thank you for the update!
    Now people can shut the **** up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagagemini View Post
    Thank you for the update!
    Now people can shut the **** up.
    Not really, people are free to voice their concerns and/or complain all they want. They asked for feedback after all. Btw, did you know they didn't state exactly how it will be upgrade and by how much? There's still room for concerns from some people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Not really, people are free to voice their concerns and/or complain all they want. They asked for feedback after all. Btw, did you know they didn't state exactly how it will be upgrade and by how much? There's still room for concerns from some people.
    Yes, exactly. And imo the game still needs a LOT of work. Also are they serious..nothing new at TGS? I thought they were supposed to be very, very open with players this time so we can give them constructive criticism so they do not make the same mistake twice.

    The way they are going about advertising this game thus far is really horrible. My friends who shunned the game after the 2010 incident still want nothing to do with the game. Most of them are like "Yeah don't even bother I am done with SE and the way they treat their player base"
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    Well not to derail but since we on the topic of video when you guys gonna upload Letter from the Producer LIVE Part III video so we can watch it? Link still says private!!!
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    Ok...I think we really need to put this into perspective.

    If I say I'm making a great game, and I promise to keep you updated on it, you have a certain level of expectations. That's fine. However, you need to be realistic.

    If you're screaming for and update or gameplay videos when the game isn't even in Alpha, then complain about how the game looks when they finally cave and give you the gameplay they have so far, that's not being very reasonable or realistic.

    Everyone here is expecting to see finished and finalized builds of every system and graphics now, now, now. Things can't be created in their finalized form instantly, and to expect such things in a pre-alpha build is just unreasonable.

    Either you yell and cry for gameplay and accept what you get at it's current level in development or you keep quiet and wait for the more complete stuff to come out.

    You cannot have both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    Ok...I think we really need to put this into perspective.

    If I say I'm making a great game, and I promise to keep you updated on it, you have a certain level of expectations. That's fine. However, you need to be realistic.

    If you're screaming for and update or gameplay videos when the game isn't even in Alpha, then complain about how the game looks when they finally cave and give you the gameplay they have so far, that's not being very reasonable or realistic.

    Everyone here is expecting to see finished and finalized builds of every system and graphics now, now, now. Things can't be created in their finalized form instantly, and to expect such things in a pre-alpha build is just unreasonable.

    Either you yell and cry for gameplay and accept what you get at it's current level in development or you keep quiet and wait for the more complete stuff to come out.

    You cannot have both.
    No one really has Patience these days -.-. It's just Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie! ( incoming, well I pay for the game so I deserve the gimmies!)

    Haste makes Waste.
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    Hey..its not my money and game success that matters, its SE. I was just merely stating the opinions my friends have on the game and if they are willing to give it a chance. Based on what is out now...the answer from them all is HELL TO THE NO. /shrugs

    When they heard there is nothing at TGS they were just laughing and saying "Yup, SE is still the same I see...retarded"

    I don't mean a few people either, I am talking about a large base of people that I interact with. So telling me all of this stuff is pointless (If you are talking to me I have no idea lol xD) its the other people you have to tell this to!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babydoll View Post
    Hey..its not my money and game success that matters, its SE. I was just merely stating the opinions my friends have on the game and if they are willing to give it a chance. Based on what is out now...the answer from them all is HELL TO THE NO. /shrugs

    When they heard there is nothing at TGS they were just laughing and saying "Yup, SE is still the same I see...retarded"

    I don't mean a few people either, I am talking about a large base of people that I interact with. So telling me all of this stuff is pointless (If you are talking to me I have no idea lol xD) its the other people you have to tell this to!
    Not trying to defend SE or anything, but this is crunch time for them, they can't afford any setbacks. I'm sure they will hold some kind of "Special Event" for this game when they get closer to a release date.

    Either way you slice it,All the Trailers and info they were given still had "mixed" feelings about the game itself. So trying to advertise further will only just be a waist of time. The 2 key factors for this game to Succeed is SE makes this a Fantastic game and the word of mouth ( Gameplay Videos/Screens of the final Version). Those are the two keys for this to work out. Advertising is good for New games, but for a game that failed in the eyes of the consumer, its kinda hard to persuade those deceived eyes.

    This is what I think anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Not trying to defend SE or anything, but this is crunch time for them
    It's been crunch time for them since they announced it last year. Crunch time or not it's not preventing them from giving us information.

    So trying to advertise further will only just be a waist of time
    SE doesn't make their trailers therefore they aren't wasting any time.

    Advertising is good for New games, but for a game that failed in the eyes of the consumer, its kinda hard to persuade those deceived eyes.
    Advertising is good for MMORPGs in general, this is the main reason WoW is popular because you couldn't look at any website without seeing it advertised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    It's been crunch time for them since they announced it last year. Crunch time or not it's not preventing them from giving us information.



    SE doesn't make their trailers therefore they aren't wasting any time.



    Advertising is good for MMORPGs in general, this is the main reason WoW is popular because you couldn't look at any website without seeing it advertised.
    If you were to do that in SE case post ads all over for FFXIV: ARR, still in peoples minds it will be meh that game sucks. Need more then just "ads" in this case of a failed MMO
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