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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
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    Oh Rokien.......yea. No hope for you.

    Move along folks.
    The fact remains, a lot of content isn't going to be released until AFTER 2.0 is. Why not push the game back longer(another year) that will give plenty of time for testing, revamping, and what not. Let alone it will give them time to include, ya know, SUMMONER! Also other classes/jobs. If we do have concerns with the beta/alpha it will also give them time to work those issues out as well.

    Point is, it's being rushed out again with an unfinished game. If it wasn't going to come out for another year, I wouldn't have said anything about the graphics. The fact that they want the game released by the end of this year/early next year, worries me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    The fact remains, a lot of content isn't going to be released until AFTER 2.0 is. Why not push the game back longer(another year) that will give plenty of time for testing, revamping, and what not. Let alone it will give them time to include, ya know, SUMMONER! Also other classes/jobs. If we do have concerns with the beta/alpha it will also give them time to work those issues out as well.

    Point is, it's being rushed out again with an unfinished game. If it wasn't going to come out for another year, I wouldn't have said anything about the graphics. The fact that they want the game released by the end of this year/early next year, worries me.
    You say "The fact remains", so how about you present some of those facts? Links and sources would be nice, because right now, the only things currently not making it at release are...what... Summoner and Ishgard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    You say "The fact remains", so how about you present some of those facts? Links and sources would be nice, because right now, the only things currently not making it at release are...what... Summoner and Ishgard?
    You just named a few, my point still remains~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    You just named a few, my point still remains~
    Things not being included in launch =/= rushed. Also, two items hardly counts as "a lot" of content when compared to everything that IS being released.

    Honestly, is the concept of thinking when you post so abhorrent to you?
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    The plan has always been for content to be released after launch in version updates...that's how MMOs work. In FFXI, even after they released expansions it took version updates for all the missions and content to be added.

    That's not to say we won't have quests, job content, the crystal tower/maybe labyrinth and others at launch...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaplanHomahru View Post
    The plan has always been for content to be released after launch in version updates...that's how MMOs work. In FFXI, even after they released expansions it took version updates for all the missions and content to be added.

    That's not to say we won't have quests, job content, the crystal tower/maybe labyrinth and others at launch...
    Crystal Tower isn't at launch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    Crystal Tower isn't at launch.
    Actually that's incorrect. Yoshi-P came out and confirmed that the Crystal Tower will be available at launch.

    SE already has a very beautiful looking game in the making... All they need to do is make sure that things are balanced well and that normal systems function (Quests/UI/Menus/Battle) efficiently/lag free. I'll except a little bit of lag in Alpha and CB1 but by CB2 they NEED to have all that basic stuff ironed out. They need to prove that ARR is the FF MMO of this generation.

    - PvP - Duels and battleground
    - Delivery System - Self explanatory
    - Auction House - Not an option. Turn the wards into that and be done with it... we're like 75% of the way there.
    - Player Housing - Make them semi-expensive but still affordable for the average player. 2,000,000 price tag on a house is not a good start, should be lower.
    - Missions - Need to not be "locked" until the next update. There should be a ton of storyline missions ready to go 1 to 50. No exceptions.
    - Dungeons/Instances - Have to be available from Lv15 upwards. Tying these dungeons in with Quest storylines is a must.
    - High Level Raids - Not talking "Dungeons" I'm talking "RAIDS". Crystal Tower needs to be something that will take players a good 2-3 weeks to complete due to difficulty of boss encounters. Varied mechanics to the encounters >>>>>> Upped stats on bosses. I hope you're listening SE. Along with the Crystal Tower they will need something else to supplement newer Lv50s. Primals? CC/AV? <--- Haven't heard if these will stay. My guess is yes with many changes.
    - Tutorial - Robust enough that it hold's players hands through the first 7-12 levels before walking them into their first storyline mission and then letting them go on their way.
    - ARC/SMN - I think it's a mistake to hold SMN until after launch. If the entire Class/Job combo isn't ready then don't release it. Release them together so that people can enjoy the progression how it's meant to be enjoyed.

    If the above is in and works well then the game will have the steam needed to keep the attention span of players that "pop" in till the next major update (probably 2 months after launch)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    You say "The fact remains", so how about you present some of those facts? Links and sources would be nice, because right now, the only things currently not making it at release are...what... Summoner and Ishgard?
    People seem to love to argue for the sake of it recently. Starting to feel the forums are becoming obsolete. Good Arguments are now becoming " My opinions are facts" or " You disagree with me well your opinion sucks". But it's okay as long as SE takes their time to get this game right before releasing it personally I'll be happy. I don't want them rushing it like the last time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    People seem to love to argue for the sake of it recently. Starting to feel the forums are becoming obsolete. Good Arguments are now becoming " My opinions are facts" or " You disagree with me well your opinion sucks". But it's okay as long as SE takes their time to get this game right before releasing it personally I'll be happy. I don't want them rushing it like the last time.
    You're not as rude as some people, I commend you for being civil most of the time, but you do love to take part in these arguments and essentially help make them thrive. So I find this comment a bit ironic.

    The trick is to just state your opinion and leave it at that. The discussions would have been so much more productive if people just accepted that everyone's allowed to have an opinion, whether it is a reasonable or an outrageous one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mug View Post
    You're not as rude as some people, I commend you for being civil most of the time, but you do love to take part in these arguments and essentially help make them thrive. So I find this comment a bit ironic.

    The trick is to just state your opinion and leave it at that. The discussions would have been so much more productive if people just accepted that everyone's allowed to have an opinion, whether it is a reasonable or an outrageous one.
    Yeah, I know that I help make those arguments, but its kinda hard to not argue when 30-50 other people want to keep pushing the issue, my problem is knowing when to back away weather i'm right or wrong. ( I try to work on that).
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