TGS Trailer ahoy!

[Elexia]

1-2 years off? yeah ok

Yep. No need to be overly optimistic about it, the fact we go from Alpha in "Late september-early october" to "After the servers go down on november 11th" when that was originally the beta should tell you to finally wake up about the reality of the situation.

Source?

This sounds more like baseless negativity than thought filled speculation.

I'm sorry YOU don't feel like it's going to be good enough to release. Personally, the trailer still has me excited for ARR and I think it's looking great.

We're looking at a few months of testing starting in mid november (if even exactly as the servers go down) and we already know the first phase of testing is locked to Japanese region only. Unless you assume the testing starts the second servers goes down it may release in early 2013, otherwise it's pretty clear we're a long way from release at this point.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post837083

So baseless speculation? No not really, you have to assume there's going to be downtime between the closing of the servers and the start of first closed alpha test.

[Starlord]

Yep. No need to be overly optimistic about it, the fact we go from Alpha in "Late september-early october" to "After the servers go down on november 11th" when that was originally the beta should tell you to finally wake up about the reality of the situation.

If you say so person who has "all the truth in the world"

Source that Alpha Starts in November please.

[Rokien]

If you say so person who has "all the truth in the world"

it's true, not only do they have a lot of work left with the graphics(if they are going to improve much) they are not even going to have all content done by release..... Seems like another rushed game

[Sevokevo_Royuki]

If you say so person who has "all the truth in the world"

Source that Alpha Starts in November please.

Not to derail but... out of Speculation.....

Yoshi P did say that we will go into Beta with our Own Character Data being available... So basing off this... Alpha might not start till after the Servers go down on the 11th of November.

[Alerith]

We're looking at a few months of testing starting in mid november (if even exactly as the servers go down) and we already know the first phase of testing is locked to Japanese region only. Unless you assume the testing starts the second servers goes down it may release in early 2013, otherwise it's pretty clear we're a long way from release at this point.

I'm curious how this leads you to a conclusion of 1-2 years before release. Unless, of course, you're merely being an idiot, which for you, as of late, is completely likely.

Even if they don't start the first series of Alpha tests until the beginning of Decemeber, roughly half a month after the game goes down (which I really can't fathom why they would do that.), that still leaves the game set to be released early 2013. Now track with me here....we're in the latter part of 2012...which means 2013 is still less than six months away. Even if they released the game in March of 2013, that's still six months and nowhere near your 1-2 year "prediction". I don't even see why it would take THAT long, considering the testing shouldn't take 6 months even with tweaks.

As a side bar:

What the hell happened to you? Are you the new owner of this account or something? You used to have really strong opinions backed by facts and solid info. Whether it was positive or negative, you had thought and organization put into your arguments. Lately you've just been...stupid. You're acting like every other bandwagon hater who posts negativity just for the sake of it, rather than putting thought into what you post.

It's disappointing and sad really.

[Elexia]

As a side bar:

What the hell happened to you? Are you the new owner of this account or something? You used to have really strong opinions backed by facts and solid info. Whether it was positive or negative, you had thought and organization put into your arguments. Lately you've just been...stupid. You're acting like every other bandwagon hater who posts negativity just for the sake of it, rather than putting thought into what you post.

It's disappointing and sad really.

Nah same ole me, I wanted to see how it is to just "fit in" since people seemingly hate intelligent discussions.

[Alerith]

Nah same ole me, I wanted to see how it is to just "fit in" since people seemingly hate intelligent discussions.

Believe it or not, there are those of use who actually enjoy the intelligent discussions. Go back to how you were. PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE. Those were the arguments I enjoyed.

[Elexia]

Believe it or not, there are those of use who actually enjoy the intelligent discussions. Go back to how you were. PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE. Those were the arguments I enjoyed.

Fine just for you =P

[Alerith]

Fine just for you =P

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it's true, not only do they have a lot of work left with the graphics(if they are going to improve much) they are not even going to have all content done by release..... Seems like another rushed game

Oh Rokien.......yea. No hope for you.

Move along folks.

[Rokien]

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Oh Rokien.......yea. No hope for you.

Move along folks.

The fact remains, a lot of content isn't going to be released until AFTER 2.0 is. Why not push the game back longer(another year) that will give plenty of time for testing, revamping, and what not. Let alone it will give them time to include, ya know, SUMMONER! Also other classes/jobs. If we do have concerns with the beta/alpha it will also give them time to work those issues out as well.

Point is, it's being rushed out again with an unfinished game. If it wasn't going to come out for another year, I wouldn't have said anything about the graphics. The fact that they want the game released by the end of this year/early next year, worries me.