Cap gil going into 2.0

[Mihana]

I took advantage of this nearing the end just to put myself at the 10 million marker. Prior to this I've been making all my gil via normal means (Close to 6 million pre-exploit.) by crafting equipment to sell on the wards. My reasoning was purely simple really, to combat the gil reduction we've got coming into 2.0. I know others who hit this nonstop even when the clusters had dropped. I'll definitely agree that this was some kind of exploit undoubtedly but if I'm going to lose a good chunk of my gil anyway I may as well lessen the impact a little.

And something to think about to those who are saying remove the influx of gil created from this event. The only way this could happen is if they did a character rollback to before the event came out. First off, it's hard to discern just where all the gil came from. It's already begun circulation into the community so you might even already possess some from a sale you did over the market wards. Really there isn't a way to remove it period without harming the rest of the community.

And if you're in favor of a rollback consider this: Doing so will reverse all progress people made in that time frame too. Luminaries earned, gil gained through normal means, level progression, rare drops, etc. Could be easy to say "Well just blame the exploiters." but would you be saying the same thing if say a piece of Darklight gear dropped earlier on in the week and a rollback stole it away from you? I think not.

[Quesse]

There's already a gil cap of 99 mil. No one character can enter with more.

/facepalm

gil cap of 99mil in 2.0 = gil cap of 999mil in 1.0, no change.

In any case, the atomos event has likely had little effect on the economy except to rob it of all supply since everyone was too busy getting seals to craft or gather. That is why prices are higher, not because ppl have more gil.

[Preypacer]

Hmm, it's a bad attitude to convey you didn't take advantage of a game mechanic that was unintended?

/scratches head

I'm right there with you Nel. I haven't even participated in the Atomos event yet, mostly because I'm doing other things. I heard about the "exploit" (that term's still up for debate) from an LS member shortly after the event started, and I just shrugged my shoulders and went off playing my other game. Sure, I could have taken advantage of it, but I took the moral high ground and decided not to.

It's a lousy attitude to call people who did it "cheaters" when SE has noted themself that they knew people would make money that way and apparently were okay with it, but didn't anticipate how much they'd make. SE hasn't called it an exploit, a cheat or any other negative label, and they're the one who sets the rules. What gives Nel or anyone else the right to say otherwise?

Nel chose not to use that method of making money? Great. Good for them. Others chose to do so.

Also, as I mentioned in another thread, don't get angry at them for making the money. The money itself harmless. It can be spent in any number of ways - on repairs, gear from NPCs, buying gear, items and materials at reasonable prices from people who aren't abusing the economy, etc - and those people do exist.

Get angry at those who are inflating the economy by charging ridiculous prices for things - they'd be doing that regardless of how they earned the money.

Hell, people were charging ridiculous prices on stuff in this game even months ago. This isn't something new. I returned to the game some months back and was trying to start a new class. I couldn't afford anything on the MWs 'cause it was all up in the 100,000s. Funny thing is, I don't recall all this outrage over it back then.

Be angry, by all means. I'm right there with ya where the inflation is concerned. Just direct the anger at the right people.

[Titans]

I like to look at it from this aspect.

1. Any other company the game would have cash shop and be done with it.
2. They were cool enough to create a new game for us using similar models for characters/play
3. They could have said "New game - new characters" and made us all start from scratch.
4. I lost all my money $.$; and I earned legit. Was this before or after many of the stupid large amount of money you could earn at the start of the game?
5. You got to play the game for free for months, eat the gil lose or fork over SE some money and try bribery.

TLR
At least we aren't starting from LV 1 so stop crying.

1. No cash shop for I game that is being remade, because of poor planning.
2. They didn't remake anything for us, they did it for themselves.
3. No they couldn't have remade and started from scratch, they don't want to loose their loyal fan base.
4. I earn no money from Atomos only seal. Didn't need Atomos for Gil.
5. We all had the option to play for free, you choose not to.

So if they started us from level one, ARR would be doom for failure. There are not enough of you new players to save SE, blonders. It was us vets who help shape ARR and maybe save SE's future. I personally don't care about the Gil people made from Atomos. People will complain about anything.

[Jadi]

I doubt this had anything to do with your economy. The reason people are buying up items is because they want to avoid the 1/10 tax. It's got nothing to do with Atmos really.

True there is some inflation but calling this an exploit is funny.. From my understanding it was very time consuming to do. Also where do you draw the line? Is gathering "too many" crystals and selling crystals on the market an "exploit" too.. because I'm sure a lot of people have made bank on that as well.

Relax, everything is under control and no, your economy is not "destroyed".. people are just moving to comedies to avoid the coming tax, it's a very normal thing to do, after 2.0 prices will fall accordingly as supply will be great.

If Nel was in charge she'd steal everyone hard earned gil before she thought twice about it.. I'm glad she doubled back on that. lol

[Platinumstorm]

with the exploit and the MASSIVE gil surge are a result, there should be a cap on gil per account going into 2.0 Yes people are going to get a reduction (9/10s) but there are people that have destroyed server economies with this exploit in their attempts to have the most gil / materials / etc. in 2.0 launch.

With that in mind there should be a limit of say.. 10million per account (100 million currently) that should be allowed to transfer over. This hard cap would bleed out a lot of pointless gil gained from abusers of the Atomos event.

agreed, or they have to do some retroactive gil adjustments.

[TheRac25]

Perhaps an alternative then? Or does everyone want to see the economy be completely crapped on for the rest of the game life?

hmm "crap economy" seems to be code language for "whaa I dont wana farm or lvl doh/dol"

[TheRac25]

I doubt this had anything to do with your economy. The reason people are buying up items is because they want to avoid the 1/10 tax. It's got nothing to do with Atmos really.

this, really you needed a bot, good luck and 16+ hours per day playtime to make more then 3-4M per day off atomos, its the people that have gil trying to dodge the gil wipe thats screwing up the economy, and if you want to blame someone blame SE for not having any gil sinks in the game.

[Jadi]

Really.. if SE wanted to really protect the economy they would shutdown those leve bots that have been running since launch, Nel doesn’t complain about that no..

[seuki]

I made 26mil off this event lulz.