Atomos = Inflation...

[Shougun]

I for one will try and sell lower end items to noobs for rather cheap

Sell direct, rich players can buy it up and set it back to median and make a profit - like what happens already.

if it is going be such a big problem why not just start everyone with 0 gil ? prices will continue to be high in the market wards anyway.

The people who have played 2 years and have max gil would probably flip so many tables we would no longer have tables but doors.

[Anakhu]

Sell direct, rich players can buy it up and set it back to median and make a profit - like what happens already.

Thats the plan

[Tranx]

Sell direct, rich players can buy it up and set it back to median and make a profit - like what happens already.



The people who have played 2 years and have max gil would probably flip so many tables we would no longer have tables but doors.

the 2 year players flip out about anything that would let new players catch up xD.

[Goufunaki]

Greetings!

I have some information to share from Yoshi-P in regards to changes taking place during today's hot fix.

This event isn't very fun or rewarding anymore.

I still want to buy a few things from my grand company, but having atomos show only at 00:00 is just slow because of the random status effects making the effort pointless.

I'm perfectly ok with items being 1 Gil, however.

[Darkillumina]

I'm not going to get into it with the idiots who think this wasn't an exploit. The only people moaning about this are the ones too lazy to make gil legitimately. SE is full of shit as well. They are trying to save face with their patch statement. They 100% did not intend or consider that people would be buying up dawn/blood drops en masse and creating money out of nothing. The statement they issued helps them save face from a terrible oversight.

I'll still be able to generate gil using my own tried and true methods so I could care less about this. Hell, I only used this event to get a single 25k weapon as I had the other ones I wanted way before Atomos. I didn't give two shits about the dawn drops because I knew it would be patched sooner or later and also because I really had no need to utilize them to make gil due to my other methods, (you know actually playing the game rather than afking at an Atomos camp for an hour while waiting for his nightly spawns).

The reason this got so popular though is that even though the Gil-Per-hour with Atomos was actually less than more lucrative methods, it was easy for people to do this as it required zero effort. The easier something is the more people will flock to it even if it actually isn't as efficient as something else.

[LemmingKingXXX]

I'm not going to get into it with the idiots who think this wasn't an exploit. The only people moaning about this are the ones too lazy to make gil legitimately. SE is full of shit as well. They are trying to save face with their patch statement. They 100% did not intend or consider that people would be buying up dawn/blood drops en masse and creating money out of nothing. The statement they issued helps them save face from a terrible oversight.

I'll still be able to generate gil using my own tried and true methods so I could care less about this. Hell, I only used this event to get a single 25k weapon as I had the other ones I wanted way before Atomos. I didn't give two shits about the dawn drops because I knew it would be patched sooner or later and also because I really had no need to utilize them to make gil due to my other methods, (you know actually playing the game rather than afking at an Atomos camp for an hour while waiting for his nightly spawns).

The reason this got so popular though is that even though the Gil-Per-hour with Atomos was actually less than more lucrative methods, it was easy for people to do this as it required zero effort. The easier something is the more people will flock to it even if it actually isn't as efficient as something else.

why are you so angry?

[Shougun]

why are you so angry?

. . ."The reason this got so popular though is that even though the Gil-Per-hour with Atomos was actually less than more lucrative methods, it was easy for people to do this as it required zero effort. ". . .

I think is the reason.

Which is true, they made a community event but didnt expect the community to do it lol. I sometimes just came to the camp with him already dead and got a free cluster +~3 crystals. Or when they changed it ~10-17 crystals.

[Almalexia]

I'm not going to get into it with the idiots who think this wasn't an exploit. The only people moaning about this are the ones too lazy to make gil legitimately.

It's not like people were buying from a busted NPC that pays more for its own goods than the sale price. There was no duping, no hacking, no trickery. It's business sense. I have played enough RPGs to know the first thing to look for in a token currency is a way to convert it into general currency. I was selling dark matter gained through GC before Atomos. Is that not legitimate? Does legitimacy end where vendoring begins?

Dawn drops are recruit-tier items. They have been available since there were seals to redeem. They have always been NPCable. If you could stomach the tedium, you were guaranteed at minimum ~1M gil of dawn drops every earth hour at the height of the gold rush. There was no market delay, no fluctuation in price and no competition. It was literally free money. Are you telling me whatever LEGITIMATE BUSINESS PRACTICE you engage in guarantees you 1 million gil every hour through the market wards?

[Darkillumina]

It's not like people were buying from a busted NPC that pays more for its own goods than the sale price. There was no duping, no hacking, no trickery. It's business sense. I have played enough RPGs to know the first thing to look for in a token currency is a way to convert it into general currency. I was selling dark matter gained through GC before Atomos. Is that not legitimate? Does legitimacy end where vendoring begins?

Dawn drops are recruit-tier items. They have been available since there were seals to redeem. They have always been NPCable. If you could stomach the tedium, you were guaranteed at minimum ~1M gil of dawn drops every earth hour at the height of the gold rush. There was no market delay, no fluctuation in price and no competition. It was literally free money. Are you telling me whatever LEGITIMATE BUSINESS PRACTICE you engage in guarantees you 1 million gil every hour through the market wards?

You are correct however.......

You don't take the time needed to buy up all the dawn drops and sell them into the equation. That takes a massive amount of time as does NPC'ing them all. If it were as easy as selling them by 999 and buying them up as a 999 stack then yes but as it stands it takes a looooong time to sell them. You can make more money doing other things. If it were as simple as 1 million instantly per hour than Atomos would be superior to everything.

I know it's hard for many of you to believe but not everyone made their money off of leve spam or anything else similar. Many people made tons of money by just having some common sense, leveling the right crafts/gathering classes and playing the markets wisely instead of blindly spending gil without thought to consequence. The ease of use in this method is what attracted so many to it. For people who do not have a crafting or gathering job leveled this was a godsend.

[Shougun]

You are correct however.......

You don't take the time needed to buy up all the dawn drops and sell them into the equation. That takes a massive amount of time as does NPC'ing them all. If it were as easy as selling them by 999 and buying them up as a 999 stack then yes but as it stands it takes a looooong time to sell them. You can make more money doing other things. If it were as simple as 1 million instantly per hour than Atomos would be superior to everything.

I know it's hard for many of you to believe but not everyone made their money off of leve spam or anything else similar. Many people made tons of money by just having some common sense, leveling the right crafts/gathering classes and playing the markets wisely instead of blindly spending gil without thought to consequence. The ease of use in this method is what attracted so many to it. For people who do not have a crafting or gathering job leveled this was a godsend.

You are right it takes a long time, but obviously it was waaay too much because they had to change the value to 1 gil.

And people are insane, so yeah you say long time they say EASEEH GILLS!!

Another problem is, people would sell their easy crystals (you never die to atomos if you pay attention to your aggro) for 1 mil, then someone would buy that and turn it into ~600K profit on bots or insanity. Its not so bad if you clear your inventory out first - I made 4 mil doing the dawn drops. 2 mil from selling crystals - and I got all my GC gears / side quest items.

So it became a cycle of easy peezy gil.