ARR Gil Cap Reduction

[stanleyyoung]

Stanley that's pretty much what a lot of us are saying yet some people aren't comprehending that at all even when given examples their brains are screaming, "NO THAT'S NOT TRUEEEEE THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!" (now imagine that with Luke Skywalker's voice .... i've watched Empire strikes back too many times..) Basically they're not wanting to see fact as it is and taking it as a personal affront to them because how dare Yoshi-P try to do something that will help the overall economy of the game

exactly i felt the same way but as few days went by i got over it and said if its going to make 2.0 better then why not. SE from a business stand point see's this needs to happen and we all know why since the newcomers will have little to no chance in getting started and then just give up and quit. many ppl claim massive amounts of ppl will quit once this happens which when it does really doesn't matter to SE since their target audience is hundreds of thousands to even millions of new ppl. would it really hurt if they loose lets say 15k ppl roughly by taking away their gil and hindering them from over pricing items in 2.0 or let them keep their gil and piss off the possible huge audience their trying to get? its a simple dollars choice piss off 15k ppl and keep 500k happy or more or let 15k ppl stay happy and piss off 500k just for an example.

and once i heard this from SE i really got a kick in the ass (after getting over my disappointment)to buy gear, since its easy to get gil via farming, items to npc them or craft with or sell on wards along with leves spam.

[zzapp]

When i first found out that SE was going to reduce maximum gil a character could hold from 999M to 99M, I said big deal. You have two retainers and if that's not enough, get yourself an extra character. If 600M isn't enough for you, you're playing this game for the wrong reason.

Now this - you're taking 90% of everything I have. I stuck with this p.o.s. game and believed what SE told us - namely, all your gil and gear will be carried over, don't worry ><. Two years of working my ass off down the drain.

For all you economic wizards, while some of what you profess is true, it isn't across the board like you say. Supply and demand of a particular item will dictate price. For example, electrum ore +1 currently sells for 28K each on my server. Do you honestly think this will automatically go down to 2.8K? lol Supply is a limited commodity here. Everday, hundreds of miners are out actively and vigorously farming this. Why? Because people need this for HQ items/synths. In theory, you will argue, oh, demand will diminish because gil availablilty is now only @ 10% of what it used to be. While I don't disagree that may be true thru time (in theory), this will adjust itself, it won't for a long, long time.

SE you should be ashamed of yourself for the lie to all of us who stuck thru 1.0 and remained loyal to you despite the piss poor game.

[KaplanHomahru]

When i first found out that SE was going to reduce maximum gil a character could hold from 999M to 99M, I said big deal. You have two retainers and if that's not enough, get yourself an extra character. If 600M isn't enough for you, you're playing this game for the wrong reason.

Now this - you're taking 90% of everything I have. I stuck with this p.o.s. game and believed what SE told us - namely, all your gil and gear will be carried over, don't worry ><. Two years of working my ass off down the drain.

For all you economic wizards, while some of what you profess is true, it isn't across the board like you say. Supply and demand of a particular item will dictate price. For example, electrum ore +1 currently sells for 28K each on my server. Do you honestly think this will automatically go down to 2.8K? lol Supply is a limited commodity here. Everday, hundreds of miners are out actively and vigorously farming this. Why? Because people need this for HQ items/synths. In theory, you will argue, oh, demand will diminish because gil availablilty is now only @ 10% of what it used to be. While I don't disagree that may be true thru time (in theory), this will adjust itself, it won't for a long, long time.

SE you should be ashamed of yourself for the lie to all of us who stuck thru 1.0 and remained loyal to you despite the piss poor game.

please be trolling

[Duuude007]

Go ahead and try to sell a relic weapon at half the cap gil in 2.0. Id wager zero people will purchase it, seeing that the chances of getting that much are extraordinarily low, while 45-55 mil are viable now due to atomos inflation.

[Aion]

When i first found out that SE was going to reduce maximum gil a character could hold from 999M to 99M, I said big deal. You have two retainers and if that's not enough, get yourself an extra character. If 600M isn't enough for you, you're playing this game for the wrong reason.

Now this - you're taking 90% of everything I have. I stuck with this p.o.s. game and believed what SE told us - namely, all your gil and gear will be carried over, don't worry ><. Two years of working my ass off down the drain.

For all you economic wizards, while some of what you profess is true, it isn't across the board like you say. Supply and demand of a particular item will dictate price. For example, electrum ore +1 currently sells for 28K each on my server. Do you honestly think this will automatically go down to 2.8K? lol Supply is a limited commodity here. Everday, hundreds of miners are out actively and vigorously farming this. Why? Because people need this for HQ items/synths. In theory, you will argue, oh, demand will diminish because gil availablilty is now only @ 10% of what it used to be. While I don't disagree that may be true thru time (in theory), this will adjust itself, it won't for a long, long time.

SE you should be ashamed of yourself for the lie to all of us who stuck thru 1.0 and remained loyal to you despite the piss poor game.

bold 1: you think urself are special? they adjust all players gill and npc price
bold 2: we already mentioning supply and demand from pages to pages
bold 3: are u oracle?if not state ur argument why. if not,you just assuming out of nothing

[Donimo]

When i first found out that SE was going to reduce maximum gil a character could hold from 999M to 99M, I said big deal. You have two retainers and if that's not enough, get yourself an extra character. If 600M isn't enough for you, you're playing this game for the wrong reason.

Now this - you're taking 90% of everything I have. I stuck with this p.o.s. game and believed what SE told us - namely, all your gil and gear will be carried over, don't worry ><. Two years of working my ass off down the drain.

For all you economic wizards, while some of what you profess is true, it isn't across the board like you say. Supply and demand of a particular item will dictate price. For example, electrum ore +1 currently sells for 28K each on my server. Do you honestly think this will automatically go down to 2.8K? lol Supply is a limited commodity here. Everday, hundreds of miners are out actively and vigorously farming this. Why? Because people need this for HQ items/synths. In theory, you will argue, oh, demand will diminish because gil availablilty is now only @ 10% of what it used to be. While I don't disagree that may be true thru time (in theory), this will adjust itself, it won't for a long, long time.

SE you should be ashamed of yourself for the lie to all of us who stuck thru 1.0 and remained loyal to you despite the piss poor game.

SE isn't taking anything from you. The value of everything is being knocked down to 1/10th its original value as to not begin a brand new game with an already-over-inflated economy. It's not "wizardry". Are you really that dense?

[Dubont]

really? you mean just lower the ceiling and hope those with 100+ mil dont accidentally forget to transfer to retainer? that would be a huge PR mistake. and the inflation still runs rampant regardless. stuff would still cost 45m, gil would be just as easy to earn, people would just hit cap faster.

Where does future growth occur?

Please consider how your suggestion is actually way more complex than SE handing you a million dimes for your 10 million pennies. The wealth you have does not change, merely the value of each individual gil.

Earning 1 million gil in 2.0 will be exactly as difficult as earning 10 million gil right now. (ignoring the Atomos factor)

You keep claiming that gil is easy to get, yet I have seen no way of getting "easy gil" other than the recent atomos crap. I also don't know of anyone with max gil...so..that point is invalid.

[Estellios]

Eli, when my 5 mil gets turned into 500k I will NOT be buying +1 materials for 28k. And neither will anyone else. It may not automatically go down to 10% but it depends on supply and demand (and with how many people seem to be taking up mining, the supply will only be going up and costs going down).

Just take time to think about what exactly YOU would do. I bet you wouldn't pay current prices either if you had 1/10th your money. Just calm down buddy

Also I wanted to point out to anyone saying that NPC buy/sell prices and leve rewards aren't important, keep in mind that it is the only way money truly enters or exits the economy. The reason things were so expensive when this game first came out was because leves were giving ridiculous amounts of gil so people could afford it.

[zzapp]

please be trolling

Unlike you, and people like you, who pleasure themselvs by camping the forums and callling people trolls, I don't waste my time by making posts unless I have something to say. This post is already 77 pages long, filled with mostly garbage. If you truly feel the need to boost your medal rating, at least pick a short, inactive post that peopel really don't give a shit about.

[Dubont]

When i first found out that SE was going to reduce maximum gil a character could hold from 999M to 99M, I said big deal. You have two retainers and if that's not enough, get yourself an extra character. If 600M isn't enough for you, you're playing this game for the wrong reason.

Now this - you're taking 90% of everything I have. I stuck with this p.o.s. game and believed what SE told us - namely, all your gil and gear will be carried over, don't worry ><. Two years of working my ass off down the drain.

For all you economic wizards, while some of what you profess is true, it isn't across the board like you say. Supply and demand of a particular item will dictate price. For example, electrum ore +1 currently sells for 28K each on my server. Do you honestly think this will automatically go down to 2.8K? lol Supply is a limited commodity here. Everday, hundreds of miners are out actively and vigorously farming this. Why? Because people need this for HQ items/synths. In theory, you will argue, oh, demand will diminish because gil availablilty is now only @ 10% of what it used to be. While I don't disagree that may be true thru time (in theory), this will adjust itself, it won't for a long, long time.

SE you should be ashamed of yourself for the lie to all of us who stuck thru 1.0 and remained loyal to you despite the piss poor game.

this man knows what's up