I'd take gameplay over animation any day of the week but we all know why they're "really" taking it out. What really has me worried is what else did they sacrifice in the game just for "gameplay".
I'd take gameplay over animation any day of the week but we all know why they're "really" taking it out. What really has me worried is what else did they sacrifice in the game just for "gameplay".
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Last edited by casevi; 09-13-2012 at 08:11 AM.
So you, and everyone else here complaining about it, if this is the final product, are willing to wait another 6 months to a year from march or w/e this was going to launch for them to impliment what your talking about? That would kill business in both the current version of the game, and create a situation in which they would have months of no new content added to 1.0 while we wait for them to add that. I don't understand why people can't grasp that in a ridiculously short development schedule, certain things had to be ignored or not done that would normally have been taken care of with more time in order to meet the deadline they set for the rebuild. You all want years of total development done in the same amount of time with nothing given up in return. Its sort of ludacris. In this particular case maybe they went with content over graphics with what little time they had. If it wasnt this issue and they had gone with something else instead to skip on in order to save time, there would be all sorts of threads bitching about that.they did do a great job and im excited for ARR, and i respect the dev team greatly for all they've done, i wish i could have been a part of it myself lol.
but it sounds like it was a confimed decision to take out these animations, which sounds like its not in there list of things to do and it wont come back. im hoping that they will see that people do want these animations and choose to allot some extra time to put these back on their task list.
your right that its unfinished and there is still more to be done, but if we wait till beta with no sign of these getting implemented then at that time its most likely too late. best to let them know now so plans can be made in a timely manner
I for one can't say if it payed off or not until i play the finished product, but if that is indeed what was done, I would go with more content over the few miliseconds of animation missing everyone is complaining about. Nothing to do but wait and see. The notion though that we should have it all AND have it in a year seems selfish to me. Considering 1.0's graphics were phenom and the game tanked and here we are now bitching about graphics when instead they are giving us what we asked for (content) seems ass backwards to me. They are damned if they do and damned if they dont.
Last edited by Biggs; 09-13-2012 at 09:46 AM.
I think they were removed for good reasons..
see your off because you assume i want everything now, and funny how you try to explain how development takes time to me. i never once said i wouldnt be ok with them taking more time to complete the game. i think that most people if not everyone here would say that if the game isnt completed or things can be improved to go ahead and take the extra time to do it right, kuz we all know if they have a failed launch again its over. they need to make everything as good as it can be to not only live up to the standard but surpass it so that it actually hooks new players. again dont go saying that im asking for everything. i know the development process better then most, if it was up to me, then i would say to take the time to polish everything.So you, and everyone else here complaining about it, if this is the final product, are willing to wait another 6 momths to a year from march or w/e this was going to launch for them to impliment what your talking about? That would kill business in both the current version of the game, and create a situation in which they would have months of no new content added to 1.0 while we wait for them to add that. I don't understand why people can't grasp that in a ridiculously short development schedule, certain things had to be ignored or not done that would normally have been taken care of with more time in order to meet the deadline they set for the rebuild. You all want years of total development done in the same amount of time with nothing given up in return. Its sort of ludacris. In this particular case maybe they went with content over graphics with what little time they had. If it wasnt this issue and they had gone with something else instead to skip on in order to save time, there would be all sorts of threads bitching about that.
I for one can't say if it payed off or not until i play the finished product, but if that is indeed what was done, I would go with more content over the few miliseconds of animation missing everyone is complaining about. Nothing to do but wait and see. The notion though that we should have it all AND have it in a year seems selfish to me. Considering 1.0's graphics were phenom and the game tanked and here we are now bitching about graphics when instead they are giving us what we asked for (content) seems ass backwards to me. They are damned if they do and damned if they dont.
we waited this long and we all want this game to succeed and our feedback is what they need
cutting parts of the game that were done right to begin with is not the way to improve the game
feedback
EDIT: notice in my previous post that YOU quoted, i said "allot some extra time to put these back on their task list"
Last edited by IveraIvalice; 09-13-2012 at 09:04 AM.
You assume too much. You don't know that it would take so long nor that it would kill business if they push the release 6 months later.
And to answer your question, yes i i'd rather wait a significant amount of time than to play with a character that feels stiff and awkward for a decade. Also consider the following : The animation we see in the pre-alpha videos, no matter how they fine tune it, it is already outdated compared to other games. MMO's need to be future-proof, and an FF one even more so because this is what it sells : production quality and immersion.
Last edited by Nemy; 09-13-2012 at 09:20 AM.
You People chill out... Yes I do want great game play... however... I do like to still see those little things still exist in the game like the following:
1. We Whistle when we call our Chocobos/ or use the Horn for Gobboues.
2. We see our character stopping like we do now in-game instead of just plan stopping like in FFXI.
These little things can really make the game feel more real and The Dev team did say that they wanted the game to be more real and interactive....
Keeping these things in the game is going to help alot... I say that I will sign the Petition to try and keep these things in.
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I have to wonder how many people are disagreeing with this purely as a knee-jerk reaction because Rokien suggested it, but otherwise wouldn't care either way, or would actually agree with it.
There are some very emotionally charged people around here who get themselves entirely too wound up over what other people think or suggest. When the very act of someone posting a thread drives someone to get as angry as some of you do, maybe it would be better for you to just not read the thread, much less post in it? I have never understood that. If I see a post with a subject that don't interest me, or I see it's by someone I can't stand or who I know usually just trolls forums, I simply ignore that thread and move on to another one that does interest me. It would be just as childish and pointless for me to go into the thread and start posting "zomg you again! GTFO! Stop posting! Shut up already!".
Rokien has as much right to post what he wants here as everyone else. Everyone has the right to choose whether they want to read the thread and response to it or not. It's a hell of a lot more constructive than others posting just to tell him to shut up. Who's the troll here, exactly?
Those of you who are telling him to shut up and go away, etc. are the ones who are out of line. However much you disagree with him, don't like him or his suggestions or opinions, he is doing nothing wrong in voicing them. I'm pretty sure the moderators would have the final say on that in any case. They *can* lock threads when they get out of hand, after all. So far this one has persisted. That should tell you all you need to know.
Don't like the music? Change the station.
Don't like the post, or the poster? Skip the thread. It's so incredibly easy to do.
I also don't know if anyone noticed, but the OP has over 120 "agrees" as of the time I'm posting this. So, it's apparently a more popular "want" than some here would like to believe, regardless of who started the thread.
Last edited by Preypacer; 09-13-2012 at 09:49 AM.
Thats why minecraft sold millions of copies? Because it looked state of the art? Content and replayability sell MMO's. Wow looks like buttcrack by todays standards and it still has a ridiculous amount of subscribers. Xi still has more than xiv and doesn't look anything like it. I am not assuming you all wouldn't mind waiting longer, thats why i asked the question. I never said "none of you would wait for it" I asked if you were willing to. I don't see anything that makes me feel like this needs more time yet, but then again, I havent played it. I think it looks fantastic as is and don't see what all the fuss is about.You assume too much. You don't know that it would take so long nor that it would kill business if they push the release 6 months later.
And to answer your question, yes i i'd rather wait a significant amount of time than to play with a character that feels stiff and awkward for a decade. Also consider the following : The animation we see in the pre-alpha videos, no matter how they fine tune it, it is already outdated compared to other games. MMO's need to be future-proof, and an FF one even more so because this is what it sells : production quality and immersion.
Also, why is it that Yoshida and the rest of the devs keep saying in interviews that it will sport the best graphics of any MMO, and yet you seem to think they are way off base? I am just willing to believe them before I listen to a bunch of random internet heads that dont develope games for a living.
If production and immersion were the only thing needed to sell games, then why the hell does the Call of Duty series make a new damn game every year? Different genres demand different things to keep people playing, and what your saying has its place but, for MMO's and RPG's, its content>graphics/animation. I play outdated RPG's all the time if they still keep me entertained. They tried doing the flashy graphics thing with the first release of this game, and look what it got em.
Last edited by Biggs; 09-13-2012 at 10:05 AM.
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