Realm Reborn = downgrade?

[Nemy]

followed by good quotes for the other side, anyone that has taken a writing course particularly analytical writing, prereq at my uni. You learn to write a good persuasive paper you point out points for both sides while still promoting yours is better. In the end you don't come off as someone forcing their opinion down someones throat by blindsiding them with 1 sided bias in the first post. It makes you come of more reasonable because it shows that you took the time to read opposing viewpoints posts and let people come to there own conclusion.

On top of that your OP is now so long no one wants to read the rest of the thread because it feels like all the posts are in the original post with no context to the conversation being held on the page causing the post to be proffered to us the readers.

I agree with that, but the problem here is, that the other side is mostly people that are simply not interested, or people who propose the false dilemma of having to trade our good animations for bad in order for something else to be implemented.

I will look into it though. (if you want you can write your views, i'll be happy to post them)

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There is no false dilemna !

[Nemy]

I agree with that, but the problem here is, that the other side is mostly people that are simply not interested, or people who propose the false dilemma of having to trade our good animations for bad in order for something else to be implemented.

I will look into it though. (if you want you can write your views, i'll be happy to post them)

(after i clean up the OP a bit)

[Dragonheart]

Yes, YOU could play any other MMO on the market. The animations were one unique thing FFXIV had, among other things. Trust me, if you want them to develop more interesting encounters beyond Tank and Spank (which I hope you would), then they need to make sure the gameplay isn't hamstringed by trying to capture minor animations. And yes, this is assuming you want to do more than solo quests and run around camps for hours on end. Any successful MMO has had a focus on gameplay over graphics, and those MMO's can do incredibly complex encounters due to quick player and server responsiveness.



I keep bringing this back to gameplay, because the dev's have stated it's a gameplay/graphics conflict. Someone here replied to me stating that "Not every fight is like Ifrit". I would counter that any fight worth it's salt requires quick repositioning and avoiding certain attacks/environmental damage.

Simply this.
I was going to post this too.

[Xmbei]

Really Xmbei?

A picture of a white knight is now... offensive?

You calling me a "prat" seems offensive, even though i don't really know what it is.

(after a short googling...)

Now i know. It is offensive, but i'm not really offended. I learned a new word.

well its as offensive as calling someone a prat . lol, now I am not all on top of some terms on the internet.... but since when has the term white knight, which has always been in historical/fantastical stories usually the hero and good guy, become a derogatory term to call people that defend something the like or appreciate? Is it now the cool to be controverisal and the rebel or the black knight in today's world... I am serious.... why has that become a derogatory term on the internet... because seriously my first created ls on FFXI was Sitania and I called us white knights because I veiwed it as a noble title... but now its a derogatory term.... to have honor on principles you uphold?

[Bharata_Senka]

I think that when SE updates the water shading model, they should take the Ocean of Tears that is this thread as their example.

[neorei]

I think that when SE updates the water shading model, they should take the Ocean of Tears that is this thread as their example.

i rofl'd hard

[neorei]

I find it funny though because this is based on earlier complaints about movement inertia when around iffy was out.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Lock-and-FFXIV

[Nemy]

well its as offensive as calling someone a prat . lol, now I am not all on top of some terms on the internet.... but since when has the term white knight, which has always been in historical/fantastical stories usually the hero and good guy, become a derogatory term to call people that defend something the like or appreciate? Is it now the cool to be controverisal and the rebel or the black knight in today's world... I am serious.... why has that become a derogatory term on the internet... because seriously my first created ls on FFXI was Sitania and I called us white knights because I veiwed it as a noble title... but now its a derogatory term.... to have honor on principles you uphold?

Well, its as wrong as referring to someone that cares enough about an issue that actively tries to change it, as a whiner. It's just things that we do on the interwebs, you can also think of them as first world problems. Imagine how small and insignificant our issues on animation on an online video game seem to a child in Uganda that struggles for a few drops of water everyday. The internet is something on its own, it may influence the real world but there is no point in "translating" it literally.

Anyway, i cleaned up the OP a bit, and i now look for quotes of the opposite view, (i really want to avoid the simple "i don't care" and false dilemma statements) so if you want to write something about it, please do.

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There are mine arguing that yeah it would be good to add these animations , but they can't add them because they don't have the time to do them the right way so it won't interfere with the gameplay .
Square wants money , they rules over the devs , the devs are forced to make that kind of choice and they prefered to have smooth gameplay over good animation .