Petition: Keep the Animation!~

[Wolfandre]

Graphics vs. Aesthetics, you say? May I present to you, for your viewing pleasure, Extra Credits.

[Shougun]

Graphics vs. Aesthetics, you say? May I present to you, for your viewing pleasure, Extra Credits.

OO o love Penny Arcade!

[Zaireeka2025]

I'm going to copy/paste/edit what I last posted from the downgrade thread...

While many of you here are arguing about whether the animation and gameplay affect each other in any meaningful way, I'm left wondering one simple question:

Why is it that ArenaNet has no problem coding Guild Wars 2 avatars with fluid stop/land animations while still maintaining lag-free gameplay? Here's your example. Also notice that, at about 5 minutes in, even in battle there is still somewhat of a foot positioning animation of about 1-2 seconds. Doesn't affect gameplay at all. Explain that SE. While I agree that GW2 animations are unattractive, ARR animation would obviously be much better of course. The main thing is that animation doesn't have to affect gameplay when there is solid proof another game is doing it. SE copped out with their "gameplay focus" response (nothing personal Rukkirii... I have a cyber-crush on you).

Basically, if GW2 can do it, why the $%@# can't FFXIV?! SE needs to look at GW2 and stop looking at WoW for this and many other reasons.

[TheRac25]

There is no reason for them to take out animation, NO REASON AT ALLL

except for the nightmare it creates for positioning

[TheRac25]

Wow.
You know what. Never mind.

You're right Rokien.

Reading that thread was such a disappointment. Someone notices the animations are gone in 2.0, and then people flood to defend square saying it's not even done. Then it turns out that they removed it on purpose, and everyone still praises them and this lack of foresight. Then someone makes a thread asking for the animations to stay, and you all jump at him like a pack of angry pigs.

It doesn't have to be an all or nothing situation. A simple cancel animation command any time a new movement is activated would fix this just fine.

this is really not news to people paying attention
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/107...-Transcription

SE: The current plan, when we're redesigning the servers, is to have a system where there's difficult tactical battles. Like the Ifrit battle, he wants to make end content closer to this - where it's all about the positioning is important and where response is immediate so you have to decide in one second where to make these moves...

[TheRac25]

Smells like they're rushing this shit, again. Looks like the current team cannot stand having anything the old team did on their game.

you don't get it do you? its on purpose so your char doesn't stand there for half a second turning before it even starts moving while something that can oneshot it is about to spawn underneath it

[Nabiri]

Signed. FFXIV's current running/walking animation is much more realistic and fluid for starting, stopping, changing direction...

I don't know what this sideways-running, backwards-jogging is all about. DO NOT LIKE. Please fix.
I don't think I could take my characters seriously as heroes in a story with this clowny movement.

(Also Letter For the Producer Live Question, like if you... erm.. like it! Please~ :3)
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post822187

Nemy had a good one as well:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post820854

[Garlen]

Why do you guys give Rokien's threads so much attention...

While the current animations make it 'realistic', they have explained many times that a faster battle system, without these sorts of limitations (yes, those slight movements are limitations) is the ultimate goal. Thus, they are being removed from ARR. This is definitely not something they are going to change. Just get over it.

[Zaireeka2025]

you don't get it do you? its on purpose so your char doesn't stand there for half a second turning before it even starts moving while something that can oneshot it is about to spawn underneath it

Why do ppl keep thinking that animations must carry their orders out to the end? With the lag issue gone, animations can simply be overwritten/replaced by the next command input.

[Zaireeka2025]

Signed. FFXIV's current running/walking animation is much more realistic and fluid for starting, stopping, changing direction...

I don't know what this sideways-running, backwards-jogging is all about. DO NOT LIKE. Please fix.
I don't think I could take my characters seriously as heroes in a story with this clowny movement.

(Also Letter For the Producer Live Question, like if you... erm.. like it! Please~ :3
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post822187

Nemy had a good one as well:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post820854

As much as I'm against the lack of animations, the new control system is fine. It is more keyboard friendly in terms of WASD movement with Q and E being strafe buttons. Like most MMO's this is the standard.

BUT! With regard to the wonky strafe we see in the Alpha footage... ya that does look awful with the legs running in one direction and body pointing the other. Strafe doesn't work that way, SE. If they want to implement strafe properly, it would need to involve the legs and body pointing in mostly the same direction and only the head turning towards the target.