Realm Reborn = downgrade?

[Jennestia]

I'm sorry how many games have you designed?

She is right though -- Unless the original engine was that badly designed there were actually no need to take it out. The CT engine as seen by the FFXIII games proves it's a good engine, bad for MMOs -- This new engine designed specifically for FFXIV should be able to do more not less.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

I don't really think it's a engine issue, anyhow i don't really care is my character stop immediatly. I'm better things to see while fighting

[LlenCoram]

While the animations were nice, the development team's number one focus in A Realm Reborn is on gameplay so even though they were nice animations, the team made the decision to remove them.

That's a shame, but I'm sure I'll be more than pleased with the changes. This is a sacrifice I'm willing to accept. Thanks for finally putting this thread to... what supposed to be an end, I guess.

[Firon]

I don't really think it's a engine issue, anyhow i don't really care is my character stop immediatly. I'm better things to see while fighting

This, I never understand till this day why ppl look at tree's and grass and shit in a game before game play etc.

[Nemy]

It isn't subjective at all. The movement animations do not change gameplay at all. I think the word you are looking for is the experience. If it is jarring and noticeably breaks your sense of immersion, it has an effect on your overall EXPERIENCE. It doesn't change HOW you play.

The mechanic of how we currently slow down and stop, and the ramifications that has on current and future movement, does effect gameplay. It became cumbersome and, while looking pretty, made movement slow and tedious at times.

If this game was played with simple dots, btw, gameplay would be the exact same. It just wouldn't be as aesthetically pleasing. To you, and many others, that could change your experience with the game, but that is all.

You have a very narrow idea of what gameplay is.

The general idea of gameplay is anything that makes a game, that is not graphics, sound, or dialogue/story.

Even framerate is part of the gameplay experience , if you like.

[SwordCoheir]

Who told you how we use TP or any other gameplay issue, is a bigger part of gameplay than the way our character moves through the map?

This is a subjective issue, let others judge it individually.

To me, movement animations play a big part, especially in an mmo, where the majority of time we see a character running around. I can deal with an unfortunate change in the battle system, but character movement is a big deal.

What part of Animations actually affect gameplay? 1.0 was the only exception to this rule because Animation Lock was an enforced gameplay mechanic to help make up for the server latency. In ARR they're removing Animation Lock so even IF they made all the movements aesthetically pleasing and smooth you would constantly be canceling your animations from WS spams, running side to side to combo, and using JA's, so there wouldn't be a smooth transition unless they re-implemented Animation Lock.

The only thing Animations actually do to affect gameplay is potentially blogging down your graphics card trying to make the game aesthetically eye catching and appealing, which can be a bad thing on lower end Video Cards when your trying to compensate smooth transitional elements for 50+ people in a little area like Ul'dah.

[Rokien]

While the animations were nice, the development team's number one focus in A Realm Reborn is on gameplay so even though they were nice animations, the team made the decision to remove them.

Sooo you guys couldn't get innovated? Think of cool ways to keep the animation while having fun combat? I really hope they come back. That's what drew me to FFXIV in the first place.

[Elexia]

This, I never understand till this day why ppl look at tree's and grass and shit in a game before game play etc.

Same reason people look at character models and animations before gameplay in this generation.

[Nemy]

This, I never understand till this day why ppl look at tree's and grass and shit in a game before game play etc.

Putting movement animation on the same tier as "trees and grass and shit".

Yeah no.

[HiirNoivl]

The only thing Animations actually do to affect gameplay is potentially blogging down your graphics card trying to make the game aesthetically eye catching and appealing, which can be a bad thing on lower end Video Cards when your trying to compensate smooth transitional elements for 50+ people in a little area like Ul'dah.

We have a winner. Thanks for your insight. /thread.