Realm Reborn = downgrade?

[Xmbei]

...a community that does not lay back saying "well, it might be this way... but not really sure... since this is pre-alpha... let's start talking about it in alpha but scrutinising every bit of information we can have, making our views known about the possible outcomes, and ask for clarifications

Laughable 1: You assume we are just laying back and letting things happen when we already stated we care about the game we just don't think this is the appropriate time.

The following, is you trying to misrepresent my views / intentions. Stop that.

Laughable 2: I was misrepresenting your views, like you do for everyones post you quote on here. You stop that m'kay. Secondly, You have stated numerous times that they are just dumbing it down and not putting in the effort and just copy pasting a Korean MMO. (Seriously, that might not be what you meant. Though, that is exactly how you have been coming across when you say it. It is offensive to us the supportive players of this team and the Dev team themselves because they have been working their butt of to do this for us.)

Strawman.

Strawman everywhere.

Laughable 3: I am sorry what? It is a strawman to bring up that they the Dev's and their team have been working there butt off to give us an enjoyable game play on 1.0 while also building a whole new game from the basics up, and you are not giving them credit to the work they have done. By saying they have been lazy because they don't have your piece of animation in the game yet.

You never did.

Laughable 4: I have actually, for the discussion. But as you said in your last quote in this response, Strawman's everywhere in this whole thread by Everyone.

I'm offending the devs that have put there life into.... Really? No i'm not going to drop to your level accusing you of being a fan boy. Never. No matter how much i want to.

Laughable 5: Yes you are offending them saying that the work they have been doing for the past year is on the same scale as a copy paste Korean MMO. Along with accusing them of not putting in the effort, when they clearly have and are clearly not finished even from their own mouths.

Wtf are you even talking about. Care to give me an example of a "false claim" to back my opinion?

Laughable 6: Again part of the same flow of brain thought following the Korean MMO accusations you have been making a lot recently. Why is this laughable, because you seperated them like they were seperate thoughts when they were all part of the same thought. Reading Comprehension: Need of Improvement.

Wait, are you talking about the transition from 1.0 to 2.0, or the current state of FFXIV? Because either way, you make no sense.

If you're talking about the transition from 1.0 to 2.0, you must sense the irony here, disregarding my concern as pre-alpha

If you're talking about the current state of FFXIV, if the game is already "Amazing! Playable! Enjoyable!", then why do you think they're rebuilding the whole game from the ground up, in the first place?

Laughable 6: I was clearly talking about the evolution of FFXIV 1.0 since I haven't played 2.0 yet to form an opinion on that magnitude yet. Reading Comprehension: Again in need of Improvement

...says the guy who just said i sound like a

Laughable 7: If you actually finished reading this post you quoted, you would notice I pointed out the irony. Reading Comprehension: Needs to Completely read to understand hence my other edit post you later quoted me on when I said "hopefully this explains my last post" I had to explain it 2x because it didn't sink in, which is why I also said in the edit, it might never sink in.

No, thanks. I'd rather make sense. If i hurt your feelings in the process, so be it.

Laughable 8: No feelings hurt, but I must point out you haven't made sense or added to this discussion since page 3.

You sound like you're genuinely mad at me. Like a kid who's trying to defend its future Christmas present, from anyone that could imply there's something going to be wrong with it. You didn't address my original argument regarding your negative role in this thread, yet you threw a semi-irrelevant tantrum, misrepresenting my views/intentions along the way.

Laughable 9: I wasn't mad ;D. I might of been frustrated, by to follow up this laughable, by you saying we "pre-alpha" speakers are a negative role in this thread. I am proud also to admit that I am really looking forward to playing 2.0 so if I have to be degraded to a little kid on Christmas, fine I will be and enjoying playing the game when I get it ;D.

Laughable 10: Since this one deserves 2. I don't think you have represented your own views correctly, since your OP. Since all you have been doing since then is say everyone is either negative, or having to use someone else's quotes and views as your own, because you can't formulate it yourself.

(clarification : when i say negative role, i mean being against the existence of this thread, not having a different opinion than me on the thread's subject)

Laughable 11: I have never called for this thread to not exist or be closed or that this is not a genuine concern, ever in this thread. I have only stated that We don't have all the facts and should wait till we actually see how it plays first. You can't base how it plays off a unfinished, unwanted demo video. I am sure if they didn't release it and went just into Alpha or gave us the video they wanted to really show us and wasn't force rushed to appease stockholders. We probably wouldn't be having this discussion.

Was that sufficient enough for you on a detailed analysis of your post? If not I can try harder, but then that is just fishing for drama that both of us know we don't want and has not positive impact on this thread.

So since I have to state it over AGAIN. Yes I want those animations back and hope they implement them. I am going to wait till I can formulate a proper well rounded feedback by actually participating in a phase of testing, which is what that is meant for exactly. The current forums have only been for feed back to the team about FFXIV 1.0 not 2.xx. They have not started asking for critiques and feedback on 2.0 because it is not at the stage yet to get feedback from yet. We were just lucky enough to even get to see gameplay. when Yoshi has stated numerous times he is not ready to show it, then the next week he he does at Gamescom? I since more of an Upper-Management Stockholders hands in the mess again which led to the rushed release of 1.0. So I have not lost faith in Yoshi and his team to give us the exact game all of us expect to receive. We just have to worry about greedy Stockholders rushing them faster than possible again, without them finishing the stages that need to at appropriate times and give us the game they deem releasable.

Hopefully that lets you understand my standing on this situation, is that negative in your opinion? I think it is on your side of the argument I just prefer to wait till testing. If it is still negative, I am sorry I don't conform to your ways of Positive input. Like I have said, you asked for peoples opinions, I gave it. Apparently that was not enough for you.