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    Quote Originally Posted by Shura View Post
    My point was about the importance of Aesthetics, and why its importance to not just cut them out of the game. FFXI did an amazing job with aesthetics, as seen in the video, the reflections on the water surface, trees shedding leafs, the birds, the weather, the airship scenery and this is an MMO from 10 years ago. Its the small attention to detail that made Vana'diel so amazing, in my opinion at least. This is a feature that FFXIV currently greatly lacks, remember the water when taking a ship? no scenery on airship, and the one thing the game did have was the movement animation, it was amazingly done and aesthetically pleasing. How disappointing would it be to have this amazing waterfall scenery in ARR but no waterfall animation. I Just want them to pay some attention to Aesthetics, sure its useless in terms of gameplay but its important.
    Yeah it's important that a game have a souls but here peoples are complaining because moving animation became of less quality .
    Square will give a soul to their game but if moving animations make the gameplay suck and don't give any more beauty to the soul i can live without .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shura View Post
    Aesthetics may not be a big part of gameplay but its the small things that bring a world to life. You can create an graphically amazing looking game but without the small attention to detail the world would just feel dead and get old fast. FFXIV is a perfect example. Below is a video of the small Aesthetic extras that XI had and its stuff like this that made Vana'diel come to life. These Aesthetics are completely useless to gameplay but it gave XI the extra something and i hope ARR will also pay attention to small details and have slimier extras in the gameworld

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iesY1...LcD3QokSmlxlTw

    Movement animation in FFXIV was amazing, i would of loved to have it in ARR but if it effects fundamental gameplay guess it can't be helped. Its sad to see it go but hopefully ARR will make up for it in other areas.
    awww =^,^= I remember the first time I saw the dolphin's .. my first ride to the island to help a blu/nin get a spell there..
    I totally freaked out .. we rode the boat like 3 times for no reason just so I could watch em :P ty for posting that.
    thank Altana I still have 11 and still play it as well .. I will visit those dolphin again when the need arises :P

    on subject > sad sad wish they could have made animations interuptable rather than the other way around...
    maybe I was imagining but didnt Yoshi P. say in one of the interveiws that he wanted the game to have a final fantasy feel..
    >> ahh yes great story line >> immersive world >> .. I will wait and see for sure .. if its gone I will miss the realism..
    if it does not make up for it with story "level of chains of promithia>the summoners journey ff10 and the like"
    Then I will still be thankful> maybe I could finally let go of my addiction to Final Fantasy =^,^= .. meh who am I kidding..
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    that's not a step backward or forward , it's just a different choice ...
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    God forbid the team makes sacrifices to make your gameplay experience worthwhile...

    But we all know animation and graphics make the game and nothing else in between.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsterBarnivere View Post
    God forbid the team makes sacrifices to make your gameplay experience worthwhile...

    But we all know animation and graphics make the game and nothing else in between.
    My gameplay experience was just fine all they had to do is nix the lag, But hell no lets make it as run of the mill as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsterBarnivere View Post
    God forbid the team makes sacrifices to make your gameplay experience worthwhile...

    But we all know animation and graphics make the game and nothing else in between.
    There shouldn't have to be sacrifices. And no one is calling it as you paraphrased. It's not as if those of us wishing to keep detailed animations were against a better gameplay experience; we've been right there with you, begging for improvements. So when the tables are turned and we've had our wonderfully unnoticed animations taken away, you're okay with turning face and saying "Well, as long as I've got my gameplay..?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caedeia View Post
    There shouldn't have to be sacrifices. And no one is calling it as you paraphrased. It's not as if those of us wishing to keep detailed animations were against a better gameplay experience; we've been right there with you, begging for improvements. So when the tables are turned and we've had our wonderfully unnoticed animations taken away, you're okay with turning face and saying "Well, as long as I've got my gameplay..?"
    Yeah there shouldn't be sacrifices but hey welcome to the real world where money rules !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsterBarnivere View Post
    God forbid the team makes sacrifices to make your gameplay experience worthwhile...
    False dilemma.

    Quote Originally Posted by AsterBarnivere View Post
    But we all know animation and graphics make the game and nothing else in between.
    In an MMO?

    World Design > Character design / animation > Co-operation > everything else.

    If you think the first 2 are lower than anything else, please, play the following game : Every mmo currently alive

    Talk to x, take x quests, run there, kill x wolves, deliver the x at the x location, get to level x to get x weapon, level the next character.

    An mmo is about the little stories and situations among the players. Our characters and the world is the main focus of the game. Not the story line or how exactly we kill things. We have a TP bar that gets full as we fight? We're gonna have a TP bar that is full by default and will go down as we fight. Big deal. Tell me about the world design, and how the characters feel.

    An example of gameplay design that is on par with animation, and world design :

    A lot of people liked the slow paced fights of early FFXI. Not because it was awesome gameplay, but because it gave the fight a believable gravity, a good feeling of actually doing something that matters, instead of the grindy feeling you get when jumping a monster that is going to be dead in a second.

    These are the kinds of feelings i expect from an FF mmo, with animation playing a big part of it.
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    Once again they never said that we will have a soulless game FFS !They deleted these animation because it made the gameplay suck , the soul of FF14 don't make gameplay suck !
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