This kind of thing has to stop...

[Elexia]

Now the question is: Was said shout looking for people who can speak Japanese? If so that's why you got kicked, since in my experience Japanese players does Moogle differently from NA players I've done it with..anything from king last to king first so maybe the leader wanted to be able to explain it well which you can't do via AT at this present time.

I've seen NA parties kick people for anything from being a new player to someone dying for x reason, so it's not localized to the JP

[Dubont]

Now the question is: Was said shout looking for people who can speak Japanese? If so that's why you got kicked, since in my experience Japanese players does Moogle differently from NA players I've done it with..anything from king last to king first so maybe the leader wanted to be able to explain it well which you can't do via AT at this present time.

I've seen NA parties kick people for anything from being a new player to someone dying for x reason, so it's not localized to the JP

nowhere in the shout did it mention anything about language.

[Punainen]

nowhere in the shout did it mention anything about language.

I've had this happen to me when playing XI. They used auto-translate for the pug shout, never requested JP players, and when I join, they ask if I speak Japanese, I say no, and then I get the boot without an explanation or apology. And it was just a grind pt. :/

[Denmo]

In my experiences, I've avoided trying to insert myself into JP ONRY kinds of things, but I have ended up in JP parties before, usually ones where they needed me to rep someone out. They were pretty courteous to use auto-translate, or even some English, and I half-assed my best japanese phrases I could muster in english since I can't type kanji worth a damn. We would have a grand time (what I could understand anyway, I hope the 'wwwwwww' weren't all directed at me...). Point is not all JP are bad people.

I wouldn't be pissed off about JP players shouting with "JP Only". Communication is key in an MMO, after all, and they have a right to want to communicate with everyone in order to have a successful party.

However, English speaking (and spanish, and german, etc etc) have just as much right to make the same claim in shouts, I think. I'm really pissed to hear about GMs favoring JP players in charges of racism.

That shit is just stupid.

[MrKupo]

Now the question is: Was said shout looking for people who can speak Japanese? If so that's why you got kicked, since in my experience Japanese players does Moogle differently from NA players I've done it with..anything from king last to king first so maybe the leader wanted to be able to explain it well which you can't do via AT at this present time.

I've seen NA parties kick people for anything from being a new player to someone dying for x reason, so it's not localized to the JP

What's with the hate towards NA? When a party kicks you for those reason, do you quickly ask "wait, before you kick me... what continent are you from?"

NA isn't the only english speaking continent in the world. Also, this isn't about languages being used, it's about people not using the tools they have available to them to allow their fellow players to play too, regardless of langauge. Of course anyone can do whatever they want, but there is a thing called consideration.

I for one have seen many english speaking parties switch leaders to the one bilingual person in the group just so they can have more chances at filling a party.

[Elexia]

What's with the hate towards NA?

NA is the biggest player base since generally when you think of MMO communities you think of either the eastern asian or the NA playerbases. NA/EU are essentially the same thing as both mostly speak English.

it's about people not using the tools they have available to them to allow their fellow players to play too.

Said tool is pretty damn bad due to the game's localization being weird between languages. What the JP think they're sending over may not exactly be the same thing someone playing in English or German would be getting. This is why JP players rarely use it, because of localization and it's still fairly limited in use.

[Dgsoil]

NA/EU are essentially the same thing as both mostly speak English.

.../facepalm.

You come into a thread to defend one culture while bashing multiple others. First, NA = North America since you don't seem to understand this basic concept. In this group we have Canada, USA, and Mexico at its basics. Now if we swim across the ocean to EU which = Europe by the way, not just The United Kingdom, you will find that it has many, many more countries and not all of them speak English and are most definitely not all the exact same culture as North America.

If you want to prevent "This thread from having more sweeping generalizations of entire populations" it would benefit you to at least know slightly what the fuck you are talking about. Buy a globe. Possibly a map. Maybe search Google? They even have children's songs if reading is a bit too complicated for you. Your sig is entirely correct, plugging your ears won't change the truth, and the simple fact is every country has racists and assholes, defending one by shooting down many others obviously makes you one.