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    This kind of thing has to stop...

    Honestly, it's causing quite a lot of problems on my server for the late night EN players. Being declined or kicked from parties, not based on our gear, skill or ability to just play the game, but because some people are too lazy to use the auto translate....
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    When you realize that the auto-translate is actually quite bad which is the real reason a lot of Japanese players doesn't use it, the sooner you'll realize it's not laziness.

    When the majority of shouts you see, from NA players, consists of <hyur> <fun> <hole> <can I have it?>, do you honestly not wonder why the JP stopped bothering with it beyond localization reasons? It's well known the localization between languages for certain things is why it's not heavily used.

    Also, JP only generally deals with "Japanese Language Only", I haven't seen anyone who attempts to communicate with them get kicked, it's the ones who try to join JP shouts and tell them to speak english are the ones who get kicked, btw, NA players are far worse with their "kicking/declining".
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    theres always gonna be people like that.
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    Those are usually the type of people I wouldn't want to play with anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    When you realize that the auto-translate is actually quite bad which is the real reason a lot of Japanese players doesn't use it, the sooner you'll realize it's not laziness.
    Until the auto-translate can be used to make it so people can explain something like the Rivenroad (Hard) fight from start to finish and make everyone understand exactly what they need to do, this is going to hold true. Contrary to popular belief, not everyone in the world can speak English.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    When you realize that the auto-translate is actually quite bad which is the real reason a lot of Japanese players doesn't use it, the sooner you'll realize it's not laziness.

    When the majority of shouts you see, from NA players, consists of <hyur> <fun> <hole> <can I have it?>, do you honestly not wonder why the JP stopped bothering with it beyond localization reasons? It's well known the localization between languages for certain things is why it's not heavily used.

    Also, JP only generally deals with "Japanese Language Only", I haven't seen anyone who attempts to communicate with them get kicked, it's the ones who try to join JP shouts and tell them to speak english are the ones who get kicked, btw, NA players are far worse with their "kicking/declining".
    I actually was kicked, a few minutes ago, by someone doing a moogle pug. I was invited, I said "Hello" in auto translate. They ask "Can you speak japanese?" I reply "I'm sorry no." Without another word, I was booted. No "I'm sorry, JP only" or anything..just...bam...booted. It's incredibly annoying and frustrating for NA players that play late nights.
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    Now the question is: Was said shout looking for people who can speak Japanese? If so that's why you got kicked, since in my experience Japanese players does Moogle differently from NA players I've done it with..anything from king last to king first so maybe the leader wanted to be able to explain it well which you can't do via AT at this present time.

    I've seen NA parties kick people for anything from being a new player to someone dying for x reason, so it's not localized to the JP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    I actually was kicked, a few minutes ago, by someone doing a moogle pug. I was invited, I said "Hello" in auto translate. They ask "Can you speak japanese?" I reply "I'm sorry no." Without another word, I was booted. No "I'm sorry, JP only" or anything..just...bam...booted. It's incredibly annoying and frustrating for NA players that play late nights.
    I wouldn't take it personally. Most of the time people just want to be able to communicate effectively without mishaps caused by language barriers. Though there still may be some assholes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Now the question is: Was said shout looking for people who can speak Japanese? If so that's why you got kicked, since in my experience Japanese players does Moogle differently from NA players I've done it with..anything from king last to king first so maybe the leader wanted to be able to explain it well which you can't do via AT at this present time.

    I've seen NA parties kick people for anything from being a new player to someone dying for x reason, so it's not localized to the JP
    nowhere in the shout did it mention anything about language.
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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    inb4 weaboo defense force.
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