FFXIV's content vs FFXI's ?

[Abriael]

I still don't get your point. When I first started playing the north american release:

The point is that the north american release came *one year and a half and a whole expansion* after the actual release of the game.

Playing on day 1 of NA release != Playing on day 1.

Day 1 = May 16, 2002.
Day 1 NA = October 28, 2003, a whole lot of content and fixing later.

[Galamantyl]

North American release was NOT launch
in 14, we are at launch, there is a HUGE difference between the 2


FF11 when you started playing was already an established game with a full expansion out

Sure, and if SE doesn't get it's sh** together for FFXIV by the end of the year, there'll be no excuse.

[TheVedis]

Sure, and if SE doesn't get it's sh** together for FFXIV by the end of the year, there'll be no excuse.

i dont have any doubt they will have everything in place, and up to par of what 11 had when its first expansion comes out in the same timeframe

but we are still a year away from the timeframe, and we know they are working on stuff, yet people still are so impatient they act as if it has to be in now

people want an 8 year old game on day 1, and i think thats where the problem is, people are unrealistic for the most part


thats not saying they coulda released it in a better state, we already know they coulda, but expectations woulda been higher then they coulda met regardless and people woulda still complained

[Abriael]

Sure, and if SE doesn't get it's sh** together for FFXIV by the end of the year, there'll be no excuse.

Sure, and the end of the year is quite far. So it's rather early to judge.

[Randis]

Just how many games of how many games did SE already mess up that it makes you guys so sure that this one fail to?
Just saying.

[Mishakai]

Just how many games of how many games did SE already mess up that it makes you guys so sure that this one fail to?
Just saying.

We'll find out when SE runs out of $$ from the XIV box sales. Currently there is no recurring revenue stream, and I'm pretty sure that even though SE says they are devoted to this game, they are most likely running on the funds from box sales. Once those run out, SE has three options. Start charging for the game and see who sticks around, continue to fund and support a game that is currently operating in a negative cash flow, or cut their losses and shut the servers down.

[Elexia]

Just how many games of how many games did SE already mess up that it makes you guys so sure that this one fail to?
Just saying.

Uh..all of their games were rushed out the door and unfinished.

They all took over a year for us to get an update to their storylines.

None of their games were popular.

We'll find out when SE runs out of $$ from the XIV box sales. Currently there is no recurring revenue stream, and I'm pretty sure that even though SE says they are devoted to this game, they are most likely running on the funds from box sales. Once those run out, SE has three options. Start charging for the game and see who sticks around, continue to fund and support a game that is currently operating in a negative cash flow, or cut their losses and shut the servers down.

Or they get the game up to speed, release it for PS3, start the P2P service and like FFXI, make up the money in 1-2 years and begin making a profit off of it?

That works too.

[BelgianRofl]

Sure, and the end of the year is quite far. So it's rather early to judge.

That's what you were saying 6 months ago.

[Mishakai]

Uh..all of their games were rushed out the door and unfinished.

They all took over a year for us to get an update to their storylines.

None of their games were popular.



Or they get the game up to speed, release it for PS3, start the P2P service and like FFXI, make up the money in 1-2 years and begin making a profit off of it?

That works too.

Yeah that would work, except for one thing. During the first year and a half of XI's existence, they were charging a monthly fee to fund the ongoing work.

Sounds like a race against time to me. They need to get the game up to a quality level that justifies charging people monthly without having a sizable portion quit, and they need to do it before they run out of funds from the box sales, otherwise they need to pull the money from other projects, or take out a loan... I don't know about you, but I don't think XI players would be too happy if all of a sudden theiry monthly sub fees went to fixing XIV rather than maintaining XI.

[Randis]

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