Why would you ever play ARC? I Hate the Class System.

[Mijin]

Based on the current skills that exist in the game, I don't see how it will be beneficial to play Arcanist over Summoner. The class system is really pointless to me. As far as I'm aware the only class currently that has any utility over it's respective job is Archer. I don't ever think it's worth lowering your dmg/skills to drop Blm for Thm just to get raise, and I can see the same issue existing with Smn/Arc.

The other potential problem I see with the class system is when they want to add more jobs to the game. Say for example they want to branch Dark Knight off Gladiator sometime in the future. Dark Knight will have 90% of the same skills as Paladin... Not only that it forces Dark Knight, or any other classes they want to branch off Gladiator to be a tank.

Idk why they don't just get rid of the class system and stick with the traditional approach to the jobs. It would be less restrictive, cleaner, and just more logical. several skills isn't enough to distinguish between two different jobs in the future, and giving up your job skills make it almost never worth playing the class instead.

[Sephrick]

Because they're redesigning the entire stats and combat system again and giving new abilities so we really have no idea what any of it will be.

[Malakhim]

If it makes it any easier for you, classes are essentially going to be strictly "freelancers" a la FFV, which can mix and match any of their learned abilities based on the situation, whether it be soloing or playing certain light party content where it's more effective if everyone can hold their own for example, whereas jobs are simply specializations or "load outs" out of a squad-based FPS or something that will limit your scope of available actions, but make you much more effective in a given role for those moments when your party requires a much more organized layout and extra oomph for a full party raid or something.

Obviously if you're going to be stuck on one type of content, then you probably won't see the utility of whichever, but that doesn't mean it isn't there. Personally, I see class variety becoming VERY useful in PvP if done properly.

[Yrusama]

If it makes it any easier for you, classes are essentially going to be strictly "freelancers" a la FFV...

I never thought of it this way, but you're absolutely right! Amazing observation! Can you be my new friend? :3 FFV is an underrated game.

@OP: It's good to give feedback, but there is a point where you would be telling the devs to completely rework the system and delete entire items (I'm rather proud of the Obelisk +1 I made and don't intend to get a relic anytime soon). There are some benefits, like the class gear, to playing classes over jobs.
You gave THM as an example, which is able to use AoE Sanguine Rite almost instantly for party damage reduction and MP regain. The most THM loses from BLM are Convert, Sleepga, Freeze, and Flare, which are all situational spells (a THM can use Chameleon). Burst is highly overrated, only acting as a faster and cheaper Thundaga. Any THM can pretty easily rival BLM in a straight shootout.

[Griphyt]

Lets see first what going to hapen on 2.0 couse there will be a lot of change of clasess and jobs

[Raldo]

ARC -> Archer.

Arcanist will likely be ACN.

[Mijin]

ARC -> Archer.

Arcanist will likely be ACN.

Probably but you get the drift.

Because they're redesigning the entire stats and combat system again and giving new abilities so we really have no idea what any of it will be.

Aside from the limit break system, and the fact that you don't need tp to use weapon skills. It all looks pretty much the same to me from the game play footage I've seen. Even if they changed every skill in the game it seems to me like their efforts would be better spent on tossing the class system our and adding some of the entirely unique and traditional jobs to the game.

I just don't get what it's all for. The class system was the original design teams concept, and it was not well received. Then they decided to add jobs, but they kept the class system around for what reason? I think it was to keep people who were playing the game and liked the class system happy too, but it's just a crappy system imo and a waste of time/effort when they could be working on adding more new jobs.

[Holland]

"It all looks pretty much the same to me from the game play footage I've seen."

"I just don't get what it's all for."

"Then they decided to add jobs, but they kept the class system around for what reason? I think it was to keep people who were playing the game and liked the class system happy too, but it's just a crappy system imo and a waste of time/effort when they could be working on adding more new jobs.

Basing your arguments on a pre alpha gameplay video. I see.

It was stated long, long, long time ago the reason why the classes were kept along with jobs. Time and time again the usefulness of classes has been proven. You just choose to not "understand" it and "see" the reason why they are there.

[Mijin]

Basing your arguments on a pre alpha gameplay video. I see.

It was stated long, long, long time ago the reason why the classes were kept along with jobs. Time and time again the usefulness of classes has been proven. You just choose to not "understand" it and "see" the reason why they are there.

Oh? And why was that? And whats this usefulness that you speak of? Darnus (hard)? lol

The reason I do not "understand" is because the answer to those questions do not exist. I do however understand how ridiculous it is when people like you get all butt hurt when someone even passively objects to some of the content in this game.

[Delsus]

Oh? And why was that? And whats this usefulness that you speak of? Darnus (hard)? lol

The reason I do not "understand" is because the answer to those questions do not exist. I do however understand how ridiculous it is when people like you get all butt hurt when someone even passively objects to some of the content in this game.

Classes are now designed around solo play lets say a DRG is soloing some tough mobs, the only heal they have is Second Wind and life surge (latter doesn't keep hp up much) so the mobs you can solo is very limited, whereas a LNC would be able to use Sentinel, Second Wind, Cure, Stoneskin, Protect, Bloodbath (is it still around?) etc so they will survive longer, DRG in a party doesn't need these because the WHM covers healing. I remember when everyone was crying about jobs because "things like Ifrit will be hard without Sentinel, it might be better going as classes for it".

But yeah classes solo have a lot more survivability than jobs, that is the point of keeping them.