On "Hardcore"

[Zozor]

I completely agree with OP, I remember this video of a GLA soloing a lvl 99 oger , long before we had jobss that was the closest thing to real skill I ever saw on this game. Key word "skill" . Now tanks are mesured by how much enmity they can hold and not by the only thing that justifies their conception, survivabilty. Anymore a tank relys on the healers to stay alive and they justify this because they can get their speed runs. can you take your best job and solo a lvl 75 mob? NO? but you can run a 17 minute av? Is that what 'lete" is these days? if soo I for one dont want to be in that group. throw away my personal life to satisfy a incorrect definition of what should be skill in this game? no thanks

Can I have a link to the video of the gladiator soloing a level 99 ogre long before we had jobs?

Tanks have relied on healers for a long time in many games. If they didn't, why would we need healers?

[Aceofspades]

Can I have a link to the video of the gladiator soloing a level 99 ogre long before we had jobs?

Tanks have relied on healers for a long time in many games. If they didn't, why would we need healers?

im sure its still on youtube, and you are correct, but the party always relied on the tank to mitigate damage, if they didnt why would we need tanks. if it helps its a taru in dated iron plate gear, i think he was a jp player. If I find it, I will post it

[Deathgiver]

Can I have a link to the video of the gladiator soloing a level 99 ogre long before we had jobs?

Tanks have relied on healers for a long time in many games. If they didn't, why would we need healers?

Pretty sure he's talking about a video by a JP known as Roi Beoulve. It appears (at least on my phone) that he's taken the videos down. IRC was actually about a level 80ish Ogre and the video was simply a demonstration of how exploitable the game mechanics were with the Armory system pre-class reforms.

Edit: nvm, found the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j82YZnN4j9U