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  1. #51
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    Starlord's Avatar
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    Luna Sushima
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    Siren
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    I honestly don't see what's wrong with executing moves faster, People wanted Animation locked removed, from what I know, the only way you can do that is if the actions were to be spammed. Also, you don't "Have" to spam them you can choose to hit the action wait for the whole thing to go off and do another.
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  2. #52
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    Jennestia's Avatar
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    Kanikou Escaflowne
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    I honestly don't see what's wrong with executing moves faster, People wanted Animation locked removed, from what I know, the only way you can do that is if the actions were to be spammed. Also, you don't "Have" to spam them you can choose to hit the action wait for the whole thing to go off and do another.
    This is the thing -- You don't have to spam it but given the ability to, people will just like people spam combos even if it's dangerous to setup, for example DRG it's pretty dangerous to combo with on some enemies if you don't know the timing ignoring animation locks.

    There's nothing wrong with faster execution, however we have to see what the rest of the battle system is like to see just how much they went from current > new.
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  3. #53
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    Arcell's Avatar
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    Arc Jurado
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    Mateus
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    I really don't see why anyone is making any kind of a big deal about this. Nothing has been said in that article to suggest TP gain is any different than it was before, aside from starting with a full bar. All it says is TP fills as you fight, kind of exactly how it is right now. As you fight you get TP to execute moves. The ONLY difference I'm seeing here is that you start with a full bar and that's really not a big deal at all.
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  4. #54
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    Kiote Corissimo
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    I dont care about the TP thing, I think the Stamina System was good. The problem was peoples ability to Click every single skill as fast as possible.

    Animation lock is not your ability to Use one skill right after another, animation lock is your inability to move out of the way while in the middle of a Skill.

    If you can click five skills in a row and immediately use all five skills, there will be no tactical combat, it will just be spam. Combos will be useless and god knows PvP will be unplayable.
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  5. #55
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    Resa Nome
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I think this will go a long way to address the biggest problem I have with the current battle system where it's mostly just melee sitting around while BLMs nuke the hell out of everything because they don't have to build up their primary damage resource.
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  6. #56
    Player Alerith's Avatar
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    I dont care about the TP thing, I think the Stamina System was good. The problem was peoples ability to Click every single skill as fast as possible.

    Animation lock is not your ability to Use one skill right after another, animation lock is your inability to move out of the way while in the middle of a Skill.

    If you can click five skills in a row and immediately use all five skills, there will be no tactical combat, it will just be spam. Combos will be useless and god knows PvP will be unplayable.
    You're acting like these WS's won't have a TP cost. If you start with 1000 TP and one of your WS costs 500 to activate, you're not gonna be spamming very much by blasting your TP reserves into oblivion.
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  7. #57
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    Taja Shin
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    If you can click five skills in a row and immediately use all five skills, there will be no tactical combat, it will just be spam. Combos will be useless and god knows PvP will be unplayable.
    That's why other MMOs use a simple thing called a "global cooldown."
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  8. #58
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    Resa Nome
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    You're acting like these WS's won't have a TP cost. If you start with 1000 TP and one of your WS costs 500 to activate, you're not gonna be spamming very much by blasting your TP reserves into oblivion.
    They may very well adjust the TP cost of weaponskills too and change the way combos work or consume TP. I don't think it's very safe to assume TP use is going to be identical to the current system.
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  9. #59
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    Arc Jurado
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    I dont care about the TP thing, I think the Stamina System was good. The problem was peoples ability to Click every single skill as fast as possible.

    Animation lock is not your ability to Use one skill right after another, animation lock is your inability to move out of the way while in the middle of a Skill.

    If you can click five skills in a row and immediately use all five skills, there will be no tactical combat, it will just be spam. Combos will be useless and god knows PvP will be unplayable.
    This would be yet another example of "Just because you can doesn't mean you should". Sure you might be able to spam skills without a tactical thought but it's probably not a good idea. Until we get a gameplay video showing a player fighting tough enemies being rewarded by just spamming skills with no thought, your fears are unfounded.
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  10. #60
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    UmJammerSully's Avatar
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    Bam Sully
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    So essentially, it's going to become more of a spam fest D:
    Please go and drink your half-empty glass of water elsewhere.
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