[Dev 1011] Failing Guildleves Intentionally?

[DeadRiser]

because there are not enough leves for any of them to be rare you have a handful of different ones per city state. I'm not being rude I'm just disagreeing, you are the one that wants to take away the only reasonable way to rank up, I'm trying to protect it.

Actually grinding is also a good way to rank up.. people just don't want to and want R50 to be handed to them on a silver platter. Leves are supposed to be quick and they are.. people log off after

[Krausus]

Actually grinding is also a good way to rank up.. people just don't want to and want R50 to be handed to them on a silver platter. Leves are supposed to be quick and they are.. people log off after

lawls are you serious? sure raptor parties are ok if you get the right set up but who wants to farm coblyns for hours on end for what can be done with a few leves.

[DeadRiser]

lawls are you serious? sure raptor parties are ok if you get the right set up but who wants to farm coblyns for hours on end for what can be done with a few leves.

There are mobs outside of coblyns and raptors and at all levels too. People don't go out looking half the time. That's what I'm getting at. Nobody goes outside of camps anymore. And ranking up is supposed to be a 'grind' in later levels, not handed to you so easily but a couple of leves.

EDIT: You just proved my point that people log on, do leves, maybe do a behest, log off.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

There are mobs outside of coblyns and raptors and at all levels too. People don't go out looking half the time. That's what I'm getting at. Nobody goes outside of camps anymore. And ranking up is supposed to be a 'grind' in later levels, not handed to you so easily but a couple of leves.

EDIT: You just proved my point that people log on, do leves, maybe do a behest, log off.

youtr right. ppl only do levequests/behest and log off personally if that is what you do, don't complain about the game you are obviously not playing it. sp was increased to normal mobs gpo explore with groups and kill mobs outside of levequests.

[Jibe]

There are mobs outside of coblyns and raptors and at all levels too. People don't go out looking half the time. That's what I'm getting at. Nobody goes outside of camps anymore. And ranking up is supposed to be a 'grind' in later levels, not handed to you so easily but a couple of leves.

EDIT: You just proved my point that people log on, do leves, maybe do a behest, log off.

Grinding is def a valid way to rank up, its just the guildleves are WAY WAY better. The SP per hour, especially if you're doing the fail thing, is incredibly higher. So that's why people choose them over grinding.

[tou]

Grinding is def a valid way to rank up, its just the guildleves are WAY WAY better.

Grinding is not a valid way at all. You get 1/5th the amount of SP per kill as you do per kill in leves. Stop spewing nonsense, you have no idea what you are talking about.

[DeadRiser]

Grinding is not a valid way at all. You get 1/5th the amount of SP per kill as you do per kill in leves. Stop spewing nonsense, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Actually you get to continuously kill mobs past the 8 leves you do each 36 hours.
Do you even grind? I think that is the actual question at hand

[tou]

Actually you get to continuously kill mobs past the 8 leves you do each 36 hours.
Do you even grind? I think that is the actual question at hand

Yes, I grind, way more than you do. I can tell you that grinding is not better than leves at all. And that you are just wasting your time if you are ignoring leves (with full links).

[Jibe]

Grinding is not a valid way at all. You get 1/5th the amount of SP per kill as you do per kill in leves. Stop spewing nonsense, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Of course I know what I'm talking about. Just because something doesn't give you the MOST SP you can possibly get doesn't mean its not a valid option. I could solo all the way to 50 and it would be a valid option. A valid option is whatever you enjoy doing. This is a game.

[Krausus]

There are mobs outside of coblyns and raptors and at all levels too. People don't go out looking half the time. That's what I'm getting at. Nobody goes outside of camps anymore. And ranking up is supposed to be a 'grind' in later levels, not handed to you so easily but a couple of leves.

EDIT: You just proved my point that people log on, do leves, maybe do a behest, log off.

No you assume people dont. If grinding was a reasonable way to rank up people would do it, but it isnt. sure I can kill hogs for 250-300 sp a kill but it takes me way to long to do it and it is also quite dangerous hence not reasonable.