[Dev 1011] Failing Guildleves Intentionally?

[tou]

Just because grinding is not better than leves doesn't mean its not a valid option for people who would rather grind. You understand that right? A valid option is whatever people have fun doing.

I like how even you, op, are derailing your own thread. We were talking about leves and why people abandon them.

Give us some proof that you actually know that grinding is an 'ineffective' way of leveling up.. you know, like a signature with your character?

Just for you.

[DeadRiser]

I like how even you, op, are derailing your own thread. We were talking about leves and why people abandon them.



Just for you.

Who cares if he's derailing his topic. Every other (most) thread derails from the original topic. It's just the way people work.
And now that you bring up your signature, I see that you have a DoH at r49. You spent a lot of time grinding did you not with a couple of local leves every so often. And it's about just as high as your DoM classes. What's the difference

its in the patch notes
you dont need someone to link you to something you can find easily on this site, in the patch notes section

Then it wouldn't be so hard for you to link then would it not? I have other threads to attend to, not just look for some link that you state there is

[tou]

And now that you bring up your signature, I see that you have a DoH at r49. You spent a lot of time grinding did you not with a couple of local leves every so often. And it's about just as high as your DoM classes. What's the difference

The difference is you are not given an option when crafting (DoH) vs if you are leveling DoM or DoW. You can either do leves which are efficient if linked and abandoned or grind which isn't efficient at ALL.

[Jibe]

I didn't mean to go off topic here but I got a little heated because tou started directing inflammatory comments to me. When you tell someone he doesn't know what he's talking about it's inviting them to come back. Sorry about derail.

I do hope that someone from SE community team see's this thread and forwards it to the dev team because there are alot of really good ideas here (especially Alexia's) that can make the leve system alot better and remove the "need" to fail leves to get the most SP possible.

[Krausus]

I didn't mean to go off topic here but I got a little heated because tou started directing inflammatory comments to me. When you tell someone he doesn't know what he's talking about it's inviting them to come back. Sorry about derail.

I do hope that someone from SE community team see's this thread and forwards it to the dev team because there are alot of really good ideas here (especially Alexia's) that can make the leve system alot better and remove the "need" to fail leves to get the most SP possible.

I think you would be hard pressed to find someone that wouldn't prefer a better method then the leve failing especially when you are wanting to build faction points for NM leves

[Jibe]

I think you would be hard pressed to find someone that wouldn't prefer a better method then the leve failing especially when you are wanting to build faction points for NM leves

Maybe if enough people chime in here on this thread with ways to make the leve system better, SE will incorporate the best of those ideas and we'll end up with a super-de-duper awesome guildleve system that hardcore people and casuals can love.

Knowing SE that probably won't happen but I'm a dreamer :X

[tou]

Maybe if enough people chime in here on this thread with ways to make the leve system better, SE will incorporate the best of those ideas and we'll end up with a super-de-duper awesome guildleve system that hardcore people and casuals can love.

Knowing SE that probably won't happen but I'm a dreamer :X

Funny thing is, this thread you made is not about making the leve system better. It is about how you are saying abandoning leves is an exploit and should be removed from the game. You should probably start a new one if you wanted that.

[Jibe]

Funny thing is, this thread you made is not about making the leve system better. It is about how you are saying abandoning leves is an exploit and should be removed from the game. You should probably start a new one if you wanted that.

I stated multiple times I dont think its an exploit. Maybe if you read the full thread you would see that.

This thread was created to hopefully get clarification from SE reps, and for people to comment and discuss the leve system.

[Chardrizard]

why do people still listen to Kilta? he plays FFXIV with a godamn youtube.

This shit wouldnt happen if SE let us pick which leves we wants to do instead of it being randomly appears at the counter. Also, while this might not be an intentional by the devs, it is not something they can quick-fix right now.. if they doesnt let us retry when we fail a leves, we will just wait for another /rage thread.

People has been doing this for long and devs team DO KNOWS we are doing this because they fixed Levinshower (Necrologs) bugs.

[solracht]

People are flaming you because you came here judging a system you haven't experienced. A system that particularly looks great on paper but plays horribly after experiencing it, especially after rank 30.

You're also advocating for a "fix" that is not really a real fix (see the first page of this thread).