Final fight too hard?

[Drako]

I Like this fight. I tried it three times last night. It took awhile cause people kept giving up, immediately after their first try so we'd have to spend 20-30 mins to find more people and try again. But besides that issue, i didn't think the fight was really that difficult. Even tho we failed, i felt it was very do-able. Its significantly easier then CoP pre-patch was, I can tell ya that.

[Alerith]

mass effect 2 and dragon age 2 were designed like that as well, so ppl could pick up from the second. Most people still want to play the first. That's the norm with all videogames, movies and books. How many people do you know that started reading harry potter from book 3?

It's their choice to play the first. Are you implying that Mass Effect 1 should have been inherently faceroll easy just so people could beat it to play ME2? People have the choice to play 1.0 now. Doesn't mean any part of it should be made stupidly easy.

Also, the Harry Potter example is an extremely bad example. The books aren't designed so you can start the story at book 3. A Realm Reborn MUST be designed in such a way that it is the start of the story.

[ToxicFox]

It's their choice to play the first. Are you implying that Mass Effect 1 should have been inherently faceroll easy just so people could beat it to play ME2? People have the choice to play 1.0 now. Doesn't mean any part of it should be made stupidly easy.

Also, the Harry Potter example is an extremely bad example. The books aren't designed so you can start the story at book 3. A Realm Reborn MUST be designed in such a way that it is the start of the story.

Does it feel like your banging your head against a brick wall?

[Azurymber]

It's their choice to play the first. Are you implying that Mass Effect 1 should have been inherently faceroll easy just so people could beat it to play ME2? People have the choice to play 1.0 now. Doesn't mean any part of it should be made stupidly easy.

Also, the Harry Potter example is an extremely bad example. The books aren't designed so you can start the story at book 3. A Realm Reborn MUST be designed in such a way that it is the start of the story.

Mass effect 1 was overly easy and you could basically beat it witout ever dying. Most games have easy mode or let you enter cheats to make it a breeze, especially 3-part games.

And you can easily start reading at harry potter 3 and not miss much. Each book is essentially a stand-alone story that rarely talks about the events of previous books.

[XavierBlade]

A lot of friends who are casuals came back to complete the storyline. After dealing with spending 10-30min just trying to enter a fight and wiping 10+ times to AOEs most have just left again. A couple have basically said they don't even want to try 2.0 because it will just be the same problems with a new world.

While I do think that this is an awesome fight, for the population FFXIV has (60% only return at patches for a week, 20% full time casual 10% semi-hardcore and 10% hardcore, this fight seems pretty imbalanced.

In 2.0 I would understand fights being designed for hardcores or semi-hardcores. But for the ending of FFXIV which is supposed to let people finish up a story so they can transition to 2.0, this fight seems like its too much of a hassle.

That combined with "unable to proceed due to server congestion" is probably driving a lot of people away.

It also doesn't help that you get the same server lag as with ifrit, which is different for every individual. For example, the first few times i did the fight i got slammed with the beam attack even though i was behind the guy on my screen. I had to watch the minimap and move before he even appeared to avoid it.

Honestly I think that SE should just easy-mode the fight (cut difficulty by 50%?) so that people returning for a few days can finish up the storyline (even if they suck or only have af). If not, it will just make people more weary about 2.0.

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[Dawiichan]

The 7th umbral stuff is kind of what leads to 2.0 and why 2.0 is occurring, so it is quite a bit more relevant than the main story.

Umm, why? 7th UE is a prequel to the main story. It's the base that leads to the story that 2.0 is continuing.

I didn't need to read the hobbit to read the Lord of the Rings saga. I didn't need to read The Magician's Nephew to read The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. Why? This is because the roots of a story don't require as much detail as the story itself.

[Rannie]

Umm, why? 7th UE is a prequel to the main story. It's the base that leads to the story that 2.0 is continuing.

I didn't need to read the hobbit to read the Lord of the Rings saga. I didn't need to read The Magician's Nephew to read The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. Why? This is because the roots of a story don't require as much detail as the story itself.

Those books are still a good read though I would say more you wouldn't have to read the Similarion to read the Lord of the Rings ( I'd recommend the hobbit since it does involve the ring and how bilbo got it)

[Colino]

mass effect 2 and dragon age 2 were designed like that as well, so ppl could pick up from the second. Most people still want to play the first. That's the norm with all videogames, movies and books. How many people do you know that started reading harry potter from book 3?

But this isn't necessarily a sequel, it's just a revamp. It's not like the current storyline is so massively complex they can't explain it with an opening cutscene and a couple of paragraphs of text. It's no more intricate than those intros they have in the STAR WARS films to set the tone.

[Azurymber]

Those books are still a good read though I would say more you wouldn't have to read the Similarion to read the Lord of the Rings ( I'd recommend the hobbit since it does involve the ring and how bilbo got it)

And thats the point i`m trying to make
You don`t -have- to read the hobbit
But a lot of people will want to.

It's all about perception.
If SE made it clear the new story has NOTHING to do with this one, then i could understand
But If people think "I missed out on the beginning of the story" or "everyone else will know about this but me", they will be less likely to pick up "an old game"

[Dawiichan]

Those books are still a good read though I would say more you wouldn't have to read the Similarion to read the Lord of the Rings ( I'd recommend the hobbit since it does involve the ring and how bilbo got it)

They're a good read, but I felt no need to know the prequel throughout the whole story.