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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna View Post
    Why did you have to do this? The last thing we need is a bunch of armchair advertising experts. Do we really need to feed the egos of countless gamers who think they can run a game from their gaming chair? SE knows what they're doing better than anyone else here. What can a horde of clueless and ignorant gamers really contribute to this discussion? Not a lot, so why make this thread. It's just a avenue for SE bashing by a bunch who think they have a clue. SE has tons of experts in their fields (ie of advertising) that know the ins and outs of markets, costs, and efficiency. Yet here you are, asking the common rabble about that which they do not understand. Why Starlord, why?
    Because we all love a good troll on the forums. but since you asked for my expert and undeniable Professional Game chair salesman advise well i'll just have to give it. Word of mouth and Individual Enjoyability sales more copies of games than any amount of washed out review sites and there you have it. now now you don't have to praise me for my godlike advertisement ability's, its just what i do when im not setting in my chair bitching or trolling ;}
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughlyn View Post
    So what your are saying... you want more male players to play the game rather than more females?
    Not all females are lesbians you know.

    You want hawtness, in that case..bring on the really big hairy chest guys.
    I mean jesus, all the male charaters in the game...got shaved legs?
    Not very manly is it lol
    i'm all for more guys, all guys have this understanding that Pub's, boobs, Beer and Pizza are the fundamental Rules to the universe as is getting your ass kicked when you hit on our girlfriends on vent. ....its a guy thing.
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    I laughed when he said SE knows what they're doing.

    This is why SE can release shit content for years and still sell copies of their games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    I do it because I care. This Game is Dead to a lot of people, and all I want is people to give their Ideas on how to counter this mess. SE know what they are doing, so they won't use something that they know won't work.. but the people that give logical responses they can take into consideration if they wanted to.
    I'm sorry but if a gamer can think up of these ideas in a few minutes, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that analysts and advertising experts have already pitched these ideas. We're talking about people who get paid to live, breathe, and sleep advertising. This is their living. They've been doing it for generations of past final fantasy titles. I don't think there is a single idea a noob can come up with that hasn't already been considered. There is, quite literally, nothing the ignorant can contribute. We are talking about professionals here, not some indie gaming company. People need to have some respect.

    And if SE knew what they were doing.. then FFXIV Original Launch wouldn't have been a disaster then.
    I give you Final Fantasy 6-XII. How much is SE worth again? Whats that? 138billion? I think they know what they are doing. Making a mistake doesn't make you clueless, it makes it a mistake. No matter how good you are at something, you will screw up sometimes and produce a stinker. See every professional athlete, market analyst, stockbroker, businessman, accountant in the world. Seriously, too much internet is doing funny things to ppl's brains.
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    I also want to, as a man, un-volunteer from any set of rules where people talk about getting asses kicked for things said on vent or any sort of objectification of shitty food and tits as some sort of nirvana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna View Post
    I'm sorry but if a gamer can think up of these ideas in a few minutes, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that analysts and advertising experts have already pitched these ideas. We're talking about people who get paid to live, breathe, and sleep advertising. This is their living. They've been doing it for generations of past final fantasy titles. I don't think there is a single idea a noob can come up with that hasn't already been considered. There is, quite literally, nothing the ignorant can contribute. We are talking about professionals here, not some indie gaming company. People need to have some respect.



    I give you Final Fantasy 6-XII. How much is SE worth again? Whats that? 138billion? I think they know what they are doing. Making a mistake doesn't make you clueless, it makes it a mistake. No matter how good you are at something, you will screw up sometimes and produce a stinker. See every professional athlete, market analyst, stockbroker, businessman, accountant in the world. Seriously, too much internet is doing funny things to ppl's brains.
    "Lately" FFXIII/FFXIII-2 FFXIV and Failing to gives us any information about Versus is enough for me to feel this way, not by how the Internet tells me. I love all those games, but seeing others saying how SE is a failure etc etc makes me feel this way and sorry if it offends you if my opinion/worry gets to you.

    Edit: Anyways, I asked a simple question not picking a fight.
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    Last edited by Starlord; 07-29-2012 at 04:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna View Post
    No matter how good you are at something, you will screw up sometimes and produce a stinker. See every professional athlete, market analyst, stockbroker, businessman, accountant in the world. Seriously, too much internet is doing funny things to ppl's brains.
    im pretty sure there was a hooker in there somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    I also want to, as a man, un-volunteer from any set of rules where people talk about getting asses kicked for things said on vent or any sort of objectification of shitty food and tits as some sort of nirvana.
    ah but you like the Beer and Pub eh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    make it free, like every other game
    Get out >.>

    On-topic i'd say SE need to do what WoW did, bring on loads of advertisments and show off gameplay as much as possible
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    "Lately" FFXIII/FFXIII-2 FFXIV and Failing to gives us any information about Versus is enough for me to feel this way, not by how the Internet tells me. I love all those games, but seeing others saying how SE is a failure etc etc makes me feel this way and sorry if it offends you if my opinion/worry gets to you.
    None of that gets to me. But you basically started an SE bashfest where everyone can talk about how SE never has a clue what they're doing. It produces nothing even remotely constructive. Worry all you want, but asking the community what SE should do is like me asking the blind and deaf for directions to the nearest hotel. You are asking the wrong people.
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