What can SE do to make FFXIV "Noticed"?

[Lux_Rayna]

Discuss!

Why did you have to do this? The last thing we need is a bunch of armchair advertising experts. Do we really need to feed the egos of countless gamers who think they can run a game from their gaming chair? SE knows what they're doing better than anyone else here. What can a horde of clueless and ignorant gamers really contribute to this discussion? Not a lot, so why make this thread. It's just a avenue for SE bashing by a bunch who think they have a clue. SE has tons of experts in their fields (ie of advertising) that know the ins and outs of markets, costs, and efficiency. Yet here you are, asking the common rabble about that which they do not understand. Why Starlord, why?

[Starlord]

Why did you have to do this? The last thing we need is a bunch of armchair advertising experts. Do we really need to feed the egos of countless gamers who think they can run a game from their gaming chair? SE knows what they're doing better than anyone else here. What can a horde of clueless and ignorant gamers really contribute to this discussion? Not a lot, so why make this thread. It's just a avenue for SE bashing by a bunch who think they have a clue. SE has tons of experts in their fields (ie of advertising) that know the ins and outs of markets, costs, and efficiency. Yet here you are, asking the common rabble about that which they do not understand. Why Starlord, why?

I do it because I care. This Game is Dead to a lot of people, and all I want is people to give their Ideas on how to counter this mess. SE know what they are doing, so they won't use something that they know won't work.. but the people that give logical responses they can take into consideration if they wanted to.

And if SE knew what they were doing.. then FFXIV Original Launch wouldn't have been a disaster then.

[Lux_Rayna]

I do it because I care. This Game is Dead to a lot of people, and all I want is people to give their Ideas on how to counter this mess. SE know what they are doing, so they won't use something that they know won't work.. but the people that give logical responses they can take into consideration if they wanted to.

I'm sorry but if a gamer can think up of these ideas in a few minutes, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that analysts and advertising experts have already pitched these ideas. We're talking about people who get paid to live, breathe, and sleep advertising. This is their living. They've been doing it for generations of past final fantasy titles. I don't think there is a single idea a noob can come up with that hasn't already been considered. There is, quite literally, nothing the ignorant can contribute. We are talking about professionals here, not some indie gaming company. People need to have some respect.

And if SE knew what they were doing.. then FFXIV Original Launch wouldn't have been a disaster then.

I give you Final Fantasy 6-XII. How much is SE worth again? Whats that? 138billion? I think they know what they are doing. Making a mistake doesn't make you clueless, it makes it a mistake. No matter how good you are at something, you will screw up sometimes and produce a stinker. See every professional athlete, market analyst, stockbroker, businessman, accountant in the world. Seriously, too much internet is doing funny things to ppl's brains.

[Starlord]

I'm sorry but if a gamer can think up of these ideas in a few minutes, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that analysts and advertising experts have already pitched these ideas. We're talking about people who get paid to live, breathe, and sleep advertising. This is their living. They've been doing it for generations of past final fantasy titles. I don't think there is a single idea a noob can come up with that hasn't already been considered. There is, quite literally, nothing the ignorant can contribute. We are talking about professionals here, not some indie gaming company. People need to have some respect.



I give you Final Fantasy 6-XII. How much is SE worth again? Whats that? 138billion? I think they know what they are doing. Making a mistake doesn't make you clueless, it makes it a mistake. No matter how good you are at something, you will screw up sometimes and produce a stinker. See every professional athlete, market analyst, stockbroker, businessman, accountant in the world. Seriously, too much internet is doing funny things to ppl's brains.

"Lately" FFXIII/FFXIII-2 FFXIV and Failing to gives us any information about Versus is enough for me to feel this way, not by how the Internet tells me. I love all those games, but seeing others saying how SE is a failure etc etc makes me feel this way and sorry if it offends you if my opinion/worry gets to you.

Edit: Anyways, I asked a simple question not picking a fight.

[Lux_Rayna]

"Lately" FFXIII/FFXIII-2 FFXIV and Failing to gives us any information about Versus is enough for me to feel this way, not by how the Internet tells me. I love all those games, but seeing others saying how SE is a failure etc etc makes me feel this way and sorry if it offends you if my opinion/worry gets to you.

None of that gets to me. But you basically started an SE bashfest where everyone can talk about how SE never has a clue what they're doing. It produces nothing even remotely constructive. Worry all you want, but asking the community what SE should do is like me asking the blind and deaf for directions to the nearest hotel. You are asking the wrong people.

[Sav]

"Lately" FFXIII/FFXIII-2 FFXIV and Failing to gives us any information about Versus is enough for me to feel this way, not by how the Internet tells me. I love all those games, but seeing others saying how SE is a failure etc etc makes me feel this way and sorry if it offends you if my opinion/worry gets to you.

Edit: Anyways, I asked a simple question not picking a fight.

XIII-2 was amazing. What are you suggesting?

[Valmonte]

No matter how good you are at something, you will screw up sometimes and produce a stinker. See every professional athlete, market analyst, stockbroker, businessman, accountant in the world. Seriously, too much internet is doing funny things to ppl's brains.

im pretty sure there was a hooker in there somewhere.

[Valmonte]

Why did you have to do this? The last thing we need is a bunch of armchair advertising experts. Do we really need to feed the egos of countless gamers who think they can run a game from their gaming chair? SE knows what they're doing better than anyone else here. What can a horde of clueless and ignorant gamers really contribute to this discussion? Not a lot, so why make this thread. It's just a avenue for SE bashing by a bunch who think they have a clue. SE has tons of experts in their fields (ie of advertising) that know the ins and outs of markets, costs, and efficiency. Yet here you are, asking the common rabble about that which they do not understand. Why Starlord, why?

Because we all love a good troll on the forums. but since you asked for my expert and undeniable Professional Game chair salesman advise well i'll just have to give it. Word of mouth and Individual Enjoyability sales more copies of games than any amount of washed out review sites and there you have it. now now you don't have to praise me for my godlike advertisement ability's, its just what i do when im not setting in my chair bitching or trolling ;}

[Nonsensicles]

Why did you have to do this? The last thing we need is a bunch of armchair advertising experts. Do we really need to feed the egos of countless gamers who think they can run a game from their gaming chair? SE knows what they're doing better than anyone else here. What can a horde of clueless and ignorant gamers really contribute to this discussion? Not a lot, so why make this thread. It's just a avenue for SE bashing by a bunch who think they have a clue. SE has tons of experts in their fields (ie of advertising) that know the ins and outs of markets, costs, and efficiency. Yet here you are, asking the common rabble about that which they do not understand. Why Starlord, why?

Pffft. As if marketing professionals have any idea of what they're doing either. o_0

[Azurymber]

Why did you have to do this? The last thing we need is a bunch of armchair advertising experts. Do we really need to feed the egos of countless gamers who think they can run a game from their gaming chair? SE knows what they're doing better than anyone else here. What can a horde of clueless and ignorant gamers really contribute to this discussion? Not a lot, so why make this thread. It's just a avenue for SE bashing by a bunch who think they have a clue. SE has tons of experts in their fields (ie of advertising) that know the ins and outs of markets, costs, and efficiency. Yet here you are, asking the common rabble about that which they do not understand. Why Starlord, why?

You know some of us here are actually experienced. Like I run a neuro-e-marketing business. And I'm sure theres a few other people on here who have similar experience.

To get FFXIV noticed SE needs to do the following:
Change the name. A Realm Reborn makes it look like an expansion which is -not- a good thing.

Advertise like crazy. Emphasize the story. Make people want to play just to experience it. For example, a tv commercial with music like at the end of the new fight, that shows people being killed, a child being separated from their family, and then a hero running in to save the day. Say something like "A realm divided" "War approaching" "pain" ..... "suffering" ..... and then have a little girl look up from a battle field and say "we need you......" then speed up the music or switch to final fantasy battle music and cycle through images of some of the coolest landmarks really fast, then cycle through a few battles against -epic- monsters doing the coolest moves in pimp looking gear. And end with a party running, looking up, seeing a massive dragon land, and everyone drawing their weapons. Cut to the ffxiv logo and say somthing like "Final fantasy 14, new graphics, new world, new game" and then cut back to the dragon roaring.

Something like that would create a neurological emotional attachment to the game even before playing it. The little girl asking for help and the preview of a massive dragon fight would make people want to play the game just to feel like a hero. The selected pics of landmarks and short clips of fights would make the game look cooler and more epic than it really is, making people want to play it. All in all, it would be a successful advertisement or trailer.
The basic concept if make the individual watching it identify with it, remember it, and want to play it.

The best gaming companies out there have mastered the art of neuroscience driven emotional cutscenes. Skyrim did a particularly amazing job at it.