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  1. #31
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    Brannigan's Avatar
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    Will Brannigan
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 80
    There's 0 effort to leveling a crafting class (unless you consider locating the turbo function on your controller "effort")
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  2. #32
    Player Alerith's Avatar
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    There's 0 effort to leveling a crafting class (unless you consider locating the turbo function on your controller "effort")
    True, but it's boring as all hell.
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  3. #33
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    Aion Zwei
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    Masamune
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    Gladiator Lv 54
    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    There's 0 effort to leveling a crafting class (unless you consider locating the turbo function on your controller "effort")
    So using turbo function will enable me to automatically search and buy mats on the wards? or automatically make me go to leve counter and deliver the leves? Damn, I should buy one then
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    Aion Zwei - Masamune

  4. #34
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    Tymora Estrellauta
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I think the system is fine as is. It is already a lot easier than FFXI.

    In the predecessor FFXI at least with every dynamis you completed you were a bit closer to your weapon.
    Not sure what game you are playing there. Every Dynamis I completed contributed nothing to my relic, though it contributed to 1 person out of 30-50 people. I won't call getting 5 pieces of currency "progress" when I need about 20k units.

    If you go the buy all currency route, even with a 2m income a week, it would take 2 years for some of them. People are completing this is just a handful of months.
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  5. #35
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    Tetsu Kaiten
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    I think you misunderstood relics.
    The only purpose of Relics is to bring back life to every single piece of content.
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  6. #36
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    Valkyrie Brynhildr
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Relic weapons aren't supposed to be accessible to everyone, they're supposed to be hard to get, require a stupid amount of time/effort, and currently they do. This is a game where having multiple 50's of different styles of play is rewarded, asking the Devs to pander to specific play style is unethical.
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  7. #37
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    Bobbin Threadbare
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    Masamune
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    For me, I don't really have problems with current settings. Sure, the money part can be a big problem, but that is still something anyone can work towards.

    There's only 1 thing I need it to be taken out: RNG!
    RNGs are for gamblings such as poker games, not adventure games or RPGs. Think I would rather play poker online if I'm RNG addict.
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  8. #38
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    Colino Nyea
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    Omega
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    True, but it's boring as all hell.
    It is, but leves are now so much better and the new quality system almost always guarantees you'll be getting more exp than you used to.

    It's still really slow in my opinion, but that doesn't mean it's not loads better than it used to.
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  9. #39
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    Estellios's Avatar
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    Hyperion
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    Monk Lv 77
    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    it's the fact that people think they deserve something even though they are not willing to put forth the effort to get it. if you don't want to put forth the effort required for something then you deserve nothing. the relic's are supposed to be something you ave to work for and not have it given to you. if you aren't willing to put forth the effort then you just don't want the gear. there's nothing wrong with not wanting to do it, but don't expect to be given it anyways.
    Yep.

    The relic quests influenced my LS to work on their crafting and gathering jobs and they are actually enjoying the end result (being able to make their own/repair their own gear or make some great money/supply for the rest of the LS) and now that leveling either is quite painless, it's not so bad as long as you put the time in. Most of us can only play a few days a week, too, so it's not as inaccessible as some people claim.
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  10. #40
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    Oreth Ulain
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I really think the devs are going to have to introduce a system where threads have to be approved before going public! The pure amount of tripe on here lately good god i have nothing good to read in work!
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