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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard319 View Post
    Very well, our biggest problem are the plumes, we have the DDs on plume duty, same as anyone else, and we do very well at getting them down quick. However, people get hit by AoEs even when they are clearly behind the pillars, We also are getting overwhelmed by the final plume barrage at 50%. We're lucky if anyone other than the tank survives AB.

    As I said before, our gear is reasonaly fine for the fight, and eveyone knows what they are supposed to do. So what pray tell is the fatal flaw?
    Uni the issue is we are not putting together win groups we are just throwing together whomever signs up and not worrying about classes, gear, or skill we are doing it for fun, if we just wanted to win then we would stack a group of our best players and do it, that's not what we have been going for we have been going for team building experience for future 24 man content.

    PS: not sure if you are talking about Seraphim groups or not but just in case you are the above is the reason
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    Yet first kill went to NA, its amazing people bring up latency in garuda fight, shows how clueless you are about the fight.
    Remember: NA/EU players can't kill Ifrit or Garuda due to latency or Lag. Anyone you know who killed it that isn't Japanese simply just happens to live in Japan....yeah.

    Quote Originally Posted by Risae View Post
    LATENCY IS. THE. MAIN. FACTOR. FOR CHRIST SAKE

    How do you think i'm able to NOT GETTING HIT BY ANYTHING BECAUSE I'M ACTUALLY ABLE TO DODGE THE FIRE IN World of Warcraft?
    Simply get better? I'm sorry but we're done with blaming latency on not being able to kill a primal since early 2011 when people realized "maybe I just need to get better."

    Latency problems exist, as does Animation lag, but guess what? People use it as an excuse when they fail at their part of the fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Risae View Post
    Do you even know what the hell you're playing?
    I'll be honest, only people who suck at dodging continue to blame latency. Do you blame latency when you can't dodge a Dodo burping or farting on you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krausus View Post
    Uni the issue is we are not putting together win groups we are just throwing together whomever signs up and not worrying about classes, gear, or skill we are doing it for fun, if we just wanted to win then we would stack a group of our best players and do it, that's not what we have been going for we have been going for team building experience for future 24 man content.

    PS: not sure if you are talking about Seraphim groups or not but just in case you are the above is the reason
    ^ This person knows how an MMO is. You can win even with going in for fun, however blaming latency is so late 2010 early 2011..it's time to admit when one is just simply not good at dodging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Remember: NA/EU players can't kill Ifrit or Garuda due to latency or Lag. Anyone you know who killed it that isn't Japanese simply just happens to live in Japan....yeah.



    Simply get better? I'm sorry but we're done with blaming latency on not being able to kill a primal since early 2011 when people realized "maybe I just need to get better."

    Latency problems exist, as does Animation lag, but guess what? People use it as an excuse when they fail at their part of the fight.



    I'll be honest, only people who suck at dodging continue to blame latency. Do you blame latency when you can't dodge a Dodo burping or farting on you?



    ^ This person knows how an MMO is. You can win even with going in for fun, however blaming latency is so late 2010 early 2011..it's time to admit when one is just simply not good at dodging.
    Maybe i just need to get better? What? How the hell am i supposed to fight the boss AND latency?
    Jesus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risae View Post
    Maybe i just need to get better? What? How the hell am i supposed to fight the boss AND latency?
    Jesus.
    Obviously YOU cant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risae View Post
    Maybe i just need to get better? What? How the hell am i supposed to fight the boss AND latency?
    Jesus.
    I suppose everyone who clears Garuda these days all live in Japan, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risae View Post
    Maybe i just need to get better? What? How the hell am i supposed to fight the boss AND latency?
    Jesus.
    That's just it...you don't fight latency unless you have a horrible internet connection. You fight the boss, that's it. Even the Japanese complain about latency problems but nothing that prevents them from beating a primal. Seriously, that's just being blunt, get better at dodging and managing your timing that's it. You don't have to "fight latency"..most people are saying "get better" because people used it as an excuse for over a year as to why they couldn't beat Ifrit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    That's just it...you don't fight latency unless you have a horrible internet connection.
    In fact, we do fight latency and the boss in the primal fights.

    That's why crappy and whiny players who can't overcome and adjust to the current latency problems cry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krausus View Post
    Uni the issue is we are not putting together win groups we are just throwing together whomever signs up and not worrying about classes, gear, or skill we are doing it for fun, if we just wanted to win then we would stack a group of our best players and do it, that's not what we have been going for we have been going for team building experience for future 24 man content.

    PS: not sure if you are talking about Seraphim groups or not but just in case you are the above is the reason
    I wouldn't go that far Kraus, most of the people in the LS know thier jobs well enough, and what is expected of them in the fight. (The exceptions are the people who are new to it.) For the most part, we have been getting Garuda down to 50% around the 5 minute mark. I have no problem enjoying the fight, and having fun, but at some point, you expect your hard work and effort to bear fruit.
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