North America~ Happy 4th of July!

[Zyph]

Christmas, Thanksgiving ... are days of mourning

I'm not religious but I grew up catholic, and Christmas has very little to do with mourning, in fact it's actually meant to be the biggest, most happy celebration of the year. In the 1800s and earlier, it was pretty much standard to be drunk and partying the whole day. It wasn't until the industrial revolution and mass marketing that kids got on board the party train with Santa Claus and presents.

Thanksgiving isn't about mourning either, otherwise it's not be a day about "Giving Thanks." Unless we want to mourn all the Native Americans that died due to the Europeans, but that's what I do on Columbus Day.

[Dragon]

No, it shouldn't be. People get drunk and drive around lighting explosive powerful enough to do serious injury, or worse, to themselves and others when they are not supposed to.

People who need to get drunk to have a good time are just making yet another excuse to drink.

Once again.

July 4th, unlike dozens of other holidays is intended to be celebrated with fireworks, drinks, the works. Whether people want to be idiots or not is another story, and there is nothing wrong with using a holiday just to get drunk.

[Jinrya-Geki]

Once again.

July 4th, unlike dozens of other holidays is intended to be celebrated with fireworks, drinks, the works. Whether people want to be idiots or not is another story, and there is nothing wrong with using a holiday just to get drunk.

That's what Saint Patty's day is for.

[Starlord]

I'm not religious but I grew up catholic, and Christmas has very little to do with mourning, in fact it's actually meant to be the biggest, most happy celebration of the year. In the 1800s and earlier, it was pretty much standard to be drunk and partying the whole day. It wasn't until the industrial revolution and mass marketing that kids got on board the party train with Santa Claus and presents.

Thanksgiving isn't about mourning either, otherwise it's not be a day about "Giving Thanks." Unless we want to mourn all the Native Americans that died due to the Europeans, but that's what I do on Columbus Day.

Although the day after thanksgiving is All Soul's day Right? That's a day of Mourning.

[Zyph]

Once again.

July 4th, unlike dozens of other holidays is intended to be celebrated with fireworks, drinks, the works. Whether people want to be idiots or not is another story, and there is nothing wrong with using a holiday just to get drunk.

Pretty much this. Denouncing booze and beer is pretty much denouncing what keeps civilization afloat and drove economies for thousands of years.

Although the day after thanksgiving is All Soul's day Right? That's a day of Mourning.

Isn't that the day after Halloween?

Halloween is a day of mourning too, thinking about it.

[Dragon]

I'm not religious but I grew up catholic, and Christmas has very little to do with mourning, in fact it's actually meant to be the biggest, most happy celebration of the year. In the 1800s and earlier, it was pretty much standard to be drunk and partying the whole day. It wasn't until the industrial revolution and mass marketing that kids got on board the party train with Santa Claus and presents.

Okay, the Catholic religion, they're days of celebration. I'll give you that, but not in many other classical Christian-based religions.

Thanksgiving isn't about mourning either, otherwise it's not be a day about "Giving Thanks." Unless we want to mourn all the Native Americans that died due to the Europeans, but that's what I do on Columbus Day.

Giving thanks is a manner of mourning or even fasting.

[Starlord]

Pretty much this. Denouncing booze and beer is pretty much denouncing what keeps civilization afloat and drove economies for thousands of years.



Isn't that the day after Halloween?

Halloween is a day of mourning too, thinking about it.

Yeah your right :P, but yeah that is Mourning.. oh the day after Thanksgiving is All Saint's Day! :P

[Zyph]

Okay, the Catholic religion, they're days of celebration. I'll give you that, but not in most other classical Christian-based religions.

I'm pretty sure the only mourning anyone does on Christmas is if you're a kid who's family doesn't celebrate Christmas while all your other friends get presents.

Seriously, how could celebrating the birth of the Christian saviour be mourning? It's a very happy day.

Giving thanks is a manner of mourning.

I'll concede to this.

[Dragon]

That's what Saint Patty's day is for.

"That's what every holiday is for" these days. St.Patty's was originally a feast day itself, also a manner of mourning.

[Zyph]

Yeah lol Americans celebrate Cinco de Mayo for an excuse to get drunk, when real Mexicans care way less about the day.