Skill trees and Alternate Advancement

[Krausus]

To each his own. Your just like the people that would laugh at people that selected the "unwanted" skill tree. Gimping myself. HA High survivability and decent damage (plus back up heals/support/raise) with random people is gimping myself.... lol think about it dude

if your party sucks so bad that you need to equip cure and raise to survive instead of going WAR you shouldn't be doing Ifrit. I dont mean to be insulting but Ifrit is not so hard that you need to do all that.

[DeadRiser]

if your party sucks so bad that you need to equip cure and raise to survive instead of going WAR you shouldn't be doing Ifrit. I dont mean to be insulting but Ifrit is not so hard that you need to do all that.

Did you even bother to read? I said with random people. And WAR as a DD is bad compared to a MRD.

WAR for damage... you just get steel cyclone and a bunch of enmity increasing abilities
MRD for damage... you get keen flurry, invigorate, second wind, cure, raise, blindside, etc.

Now what were you saying?

[Krausus]

Did you even bother to read? I said with random people. And WAR as a DD is bad compared to a MRD.

WAR for damage... you just get steel cyclone and a bunch of enmity increasing abilities
MRD for damage... you get keen flurry, invigorate, second wind, cure, raise, blindside, etc.

Now what were you saying?

I was saying that if you have to go class to survive then you need to get better, simple as that. You didnt say you where going MRD for for more damage skills you said you where going MRD for backup support cure and raise dont change your mind now. Randoms or not if you have to go on classes then you shouldn't be doing Ifrit.

[DeadRiser]

I was saying that if you have to go class to survive then you need to get better, simple as that. You didnt say you where going MRD for for more damage skills you said you where going MRD for backup support cure and raise dont change your mind now. Randoms or not if you have to go on classes then you shouldn't be doing Ifrit.

Way to take everything I said out of context. Have you ever heard of "sh*t happens"? When a whm just so happens to get hit by an eruption and die, or the healers are running away from eruptions, having extra support is a great things. That's what classes are for.

Please don't assume that I'm bad at Ifrit. It has NOTHING to do with my skill. I've gotten 6/7 weapons and have only been doing it for fun now. When you do it with NEWER people that aren't used to Ifrit, I rather survivability and support. I never changed my "mind", so please get this bullsh*t out of your mind.

[Krausus]

Way to take everything I said out of context. Have you ever heard of "sh*t happens"? When a whm just so happens to get hit by an eruption and die, or the healers are running away from eruptions, having extra support is a great things. That's what classes are for.

Please don't assume that I'm bad at Ifrit. It has NOTHING to do with my skill. I've gotten 6/7 weapons and have only been doing it for fun now. When you do it with NEWER people that aren't used to Ifrit, I rather survivability and support. I never changed my "mind", so please get this bullsh*t out of your mind.

I didn't say YOU where bad I said your party was bad.

[DeadRiser]

I didn't say YOU where bad I said your party was bad.

"I was saying that if you have to go class to survive then you need to get better, simple as that"

Lol there is quite a lot of "you's" in there. Maybe you should pay attention to what you are typing. And you still didn't read what I put. Keep in mind that this is all with random people, not my LS's or friends. A lot of people that still do Ifrit are fairly new to it. Call them bad all you want, you were once that bad at Ifrit too.

Ppl just have this stupid tick in their head that classes can't be used anymore

Lol Everything except CNJ is still viable as a class. CNJ is just gimping yourself because you get invited to heal, not dps.

[Krausus]

"I was saying that if you have to go class to survive then you need to get better, simple as that"

Lol there is quite a lot of "you's" in there. Maybe you should pay attention to what you are typing. And you still didn't read what I put. Keep in mind that this is all with random people, not my LS's or friends. A lot of people that still do Ifrit are fairly new to it. Call them bad all you want, you were once that bad at Ifrit too.



Lol Everything except CNJ is still viable as a class. CNJ is just gimping yourself because you get invited to heal, not dps.

why the hell would you use LNC over DRG, or MNK over PGL, or BLM over THM

[Firon]

Way to take everything I said out of context. Have you ever heard of "sh*t happens"? When a whm just so happens to get hit by an eruption and die, or the healers are running away from eruptions, having extra support is a great things. That's what classes are for.

Please don't assume that I'm bad at Ifrit. It has NOTHING to do with my skill. I've gotten 6/7 weapons and have only been doing it for fun now. When you do it with NEWER people that aren't used to Ifrit, I rather survivability and support. I never changed my "mind", so please get this bullsh*t out of your mind.

Ppl just have this stupid tick in their head that classes can't be used anymore

[Krausus]

Ppl just have this stupid tick in their head that classes can't be used anymore

Im not saying classes can't be used anymore what I'm saying is classes shouldn't be NEEDED to kill Ifrit. I would beg to differ though that some class really should not be used anymore like LNC and PGL. I certainly see why MRD (dps), ARC (dps) are still good to use for certain situations and that's because they lack access to LNC abilities and ARC lacks access to LNC and PGL abilities.

[Firon]

Im not saying classes can't be used anymore what I'm saying is classes shouldn't be NEEDED to kill Ifrit. I would beg to differ though that some class really should not be used anymore like LNC and PGL. I certainly see why MRD (dps), ARC (dps) are still good to use for certain situations and that's because they lack access to LNC abilities and ARC lacks access to LNC and PGL abilities.

I use pgl for solo what they intended it for i also use it when duoing mnk hits hard but also gets hit to hard.

Vengeance and Mighty strikes are DD abilities.

LOL WTF
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