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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by FelixTrapper View Post
    One of the first criticisms I had about FF14 was the fact that they basically copied everything from FFXI and changed names. To this day, people in-game will refer to 'Galkas' , 'Mithra' and 'Tarus' instead of their proper FF14 names.

    I wonder, wouldn't the next big FF MMO have been better suited to take place in a different world? Sure, Eorzea is a different world... but is it -really-?

    What if the game took place either IN Ivalice or just a world fashioned after Ivalice? Instead of Galka, how about Seeq? Instead of Mithra, wouldn't Viera be a welcome change? Replace the Taru with the playable Moogle race, or perhaps the wise Nu Muo? And surely the Bangaa would be an impressive alternate to Elvaan . . and you even get to keep your more generic Humans for the play-it-safe crowd.

    I know this has probably been discussed before, but as a life-long FF fan my heart literally aches just thinking about this missed opportunity.
    I agree 100%.. Its a total missed opportunity.

    In fact, I suspect that an Ivalice world may have even been internally considered during the 'Project Rapture' stages of the game, (Akihiko Yoshida's art style and direction certainly point to it) - but the number-crunchers at SE felt that this game needed to give FFXI players something familiar, and thus the inclusion of quasi-Vana races -- a decision that brought unforeseen expectation baggage to FFXIV 1.0 and contributed to its panning IMHO.

    But that's history, and we have what we have. At this point, it's best to get behind Yoshi-P's vision for the game - that is, a them-park homage to the FF series. (an idea I'm becoming quite fond of) We will see some Ivalice references here and there (maybe even Viera), but Eorzea won't and shouldn't be Ivalice.

    I would rather that SE make the next FF MMO set in Ivalice and do it properly (eg. bring Yasumi Matsuno in as a consultant). But that is 8 years away at least...
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    Last edited by Zantetsuken; 06-28-2012 at 01:04 AM.

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    Ye that name change was retarded....I could have lived with the old races as well....
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    as a non FFXI player, I dont have any problem with the race is re-use, it is like another story or a follow story
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    Quote Originally Posted by madolyn View Post
    I read somewhere that they kept the same races intentionally because they anticipated a huge influx of FFXI players. Specifically players who grew attached to their characters over several years. They hoped that it would be welcomed that people could recreate their old characters and it would make for a more comfortable transition.
    Correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by nasomi View Post
    Does anyone actuallly know hte proper names of galka and mithra and tarutaru?
    In FFXI, their proper names are Galka, Mithra, and Tarutaru respectively; in FFXIV, their proper names are Roegadyn, Miqo'te, and Lalafell.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArkNova View Post
    Yup the original idea was you could take your player and hop back and forth between XI and XIV but they said it was way too complicated. They probably brainstormed and picked the idea apart until all that was left was your name and face would transfer over so they just scrapped the idea.
    Yeah, that's true, but on the other hand it could be because of the current engine. Maybe after 2.0 someone could ask about it.
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  5. #45
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    Why does everyone have such a Hard-on for Ivalice?

    One of the main selling points of FF games is to create a New World with each new game in the Number Sequence. Not a World based off a previous world.. The only thing taken from XI was the races. That was done specifically so that XI players could move to XIV while keeping some semblance of the character they dedicated 10 years to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Dear SE, please make moogles a playable race. Thank you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Griphyt View Post
    Please add Moogle Character like FFXII *_*
    Having them become a playable race would be too contradictory to the lore at this point (i've tried lol). Especially with how deep into 2.0 they are, and believe me if anyone wanted this the most it was me.

    Regardless... having customizable Moogles as battle/gathering companions could really enhance many aspects of the game if done right. Ideas are outlined in my sig below for details.
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    It looks like they're bringing Mognet back in 2.0, which is friggin' awesome.

    No lie, I had a dream last night that Stiltzkin was in 2.0 traveling the world.
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    The same reason it wasn't Vana'diel
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    Quote Originally Posted by FelixTrapper View Post
    Instead of Mithra, wouldn't Viera be a welcome change?
    I see what you did there.

    But on topic, each numbered FF game is usually set in a different universe so that's probably why they didn't go with that.
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    The races we have now are fine, add some more options and bingo!
    Your done.
    If the game didn't have FFXI's races I would have been upset.
    They should have kept the names the same IMO though.
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    Last edited by Toxsik; 06-28-2012 at 03:52 AM.

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