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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkwood View Post
    You are aware November to April is 6 months right... The new team was in place 1-2 weeks before we got the announcement.
    A) Your "the new team was in place weeks before the announcement" is an assumption at best, a bad one at worst. Tanaka was still on a PR tour a week before the announcement, talking about the same things he had talked about for who knows how long.

    B) Even if the change happened in early December (and by "change" I mean "the formal announcement, and afterwards the total restructural of the development process and the management", something that isn't done in a day even in the best case, a month+ sounds far more likely), from early December to early April is 4 months. From early November to late April would be 6 months. You think that 30th of November is "one month" and April 6th is "one month". Hilarious.

    So, 4 months at best, 3 months at worst (the change in development did not happen overnight). Plus the two weeks delay due to the disaster.

    Excellent thought process there, champ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    A) Your "the new team was in place weeks before the announcement" is an assumption at best, a bad one at worst. Tanaka was still on a PR tour a week before the announcement, talking about the same things he had talked about for who knows how long.

    B) Even if the change happened in early December (and by "change" I mean "the formal announcement, and afterwards the total restructural of the development process and the management", something that isn't done in a day even in the best case, a month+ sounds far more likely), from early December to early April is 4 months. From early November to late April would be 6 months. You think that 30th of November is "one month" and April 6th is "one month". Hilarious.

    So, 4 months at best, 3 months at worst (the change in development did not happen overnight). Plus the two weeks delay due to the disaster.

    Excellent thought process there, champ.
    Excuse me for making a small mathematical error there "Champ" the Notice came down on 12/9 announcing the new team. Either way that makes it almost 5 months to the day. Still in 5 months best we get is some re-size come on man that's not a good use of time, all they would have done in that time is change an equation or integer yeah I can do that as well, change a 1 to a 2. As far as the disaster goes for all we know development did not totally stop as Tokyo only got rolling blackouts which is where SE is. Yoshis letter only stated things would be pushed back due tot he disaster, not that development stopped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkwood View Post
    Excuse me for making a small mathematical error there "Champ" the Notice came down on 12/9 announcing the new team. Either way that makes it almost 5 months to the day.
    12/9 > 1/9 = 1 month.

    12/9 > 2/9 = 2 months.

    12/9 > 3/9 = 3 months.

    12/9 > 4/9 = 4 months.

    Even in the most vague case it hasn't been even 4 months yet.

    Also, we are stretching the concept of "small mathematical errors". Yeah, it was 50% wrong, but who cares about the details.

    Further, we have yet received the updates for the March period due to the delay. There is a lot shit going on but we won't see it before they implement it. Lastly, the larger the change, the longer it takes to implement. Rehaul? We're talking about 3-4 months of work here. Changing mob sizes? Maybe few weeks of work. Small updates that take less time to implement are coming sooner than rehauls that take longer to implement. It's not rocket science, but then again, neither is counting the months...

    As far as the disaster goes for all we know development did not totally stop as Tokyo only got rolling blackouts which is where SE is.
    How do you know this is not exactly the kind of stuff they worked on during that time? It seems this particular update is ready for the next patch, yet they only announced it today. Thus it is not unreasonable to assume they haven't worked on it that long, maybe few weeks at most.
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    I can only imagine the anguish that was going through Triairy's mind when posting that:

    "Oh man... The forums are going to be in such a shitstorm because of this... Geez."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkwood View Post
    Excuse me for making a small mathematical error there "Champ" the Notice came down on 12/9 announcing the new team. Either way that makes it almost 5 months to the day. Still in 5 months best we get is some re-size come on man that's not a good use of time, all they would have done in that time is change an equation or integer yeah I can do that as well, change a 1 to a 2. As far as the disaster goes for all we know development did not totally stop as Tokyo only got rolling blackouts which is where SE is. Yoshis letter only stated things would be pushed back due tot he disaster, not that development stopped.
    Yoshida himself said he'd been working on the project for 3 months in his latest interview (though there was a week or so's delay since the previous wave of interviews). I'll take his maths over yours I think.
    Also, questionning whether development continued throughout the disaster is irrelevant, we KNOW it had a major impact and that a lot of people werent working (if you read the latest letter Yoshida said things are ALMOST back to running at full again), so even if some development went on it was likely to be a hell of a lot less than usual.

    You want to complain for the sake of complaining, it seems.

    Also, would you LOOK at your maths for god's sake? 9th December -> 9th January, 1 month, -> 9th Feb -> 9th March -> 9th April. Thats FOUR MONTHS, FOUR.

    And thats WITH the assumption that immediately things changed over and they started work again straight off the bat, which, again is stupid considering we know all the things the old team had planned for January got put on hold indefinitely.

    EDIT: Oh, just noticed the above post saying almost the same thing, derp. Either way I think this summed it up nicely:
    It's not rocket science, but then again, neither is counting the months...
    Yeah we're done here.
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    Last edited by Sephr; 04-06-2011 at 10:52 PM.