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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    If this game felt like FFXI I'd have a ton of content to do, lots of people to play with and I would be playing my SCH and DNC, The Relic requirement in XI is nothing compared to XIV's...

    XI -
    Gain weapon from appropriate Dynamis zone - Very common drop
    Gain currency - You can even do this solo and buy every currency if you have the gil for it
    Gain craft items requested - This above all is the easiest step unless you go after Gungnir, which has a weapon you need to craft yourself or get someone to craft.
    Wait a few real life days between steps.
    Gain Attestations and Shards - Very very easy.
    Take weapon to requested zone and get your weapon (or shield) and a refund on one of the steps which you can hand off to someone else or sell.

    Tell me how that's "bad" compared to XIVs that people are complaining about left and right?


    You're comparing getting the relic in NEW Dynamis, not how it was in OLD Dynamis. Really, FFXIV relics are more comparable to getting a Mythic weapon in XI.

    Allow me to show you what it took to get a Mythic weapon in XI.

    - Complete the main ToAU story line (Not that hard really)
    - Get Captain rank (by completing all 50 assaults - Minimum 50 days).
    - Climb Nyzul Isle to get special weapon (although, it is possible to get weapon before getting to top)
    > Start quest
    - Kill 3 Beastmen bosses
    - Complete all four areas of Salvage
    - Get Key (From climbing Nyzul Isle)
    - Kill Odin (In Einjerhar)
    - Get 150,000 Nyzul isle points
    - get 30,000 Alexandrite (drops only in Salvage in 1-100 increments. You'd be lucky to get more than 100 per run)
    - get 10,000 ichor in Einjerhar (Months and months of Einjerhar running)
    - Do all 50 assaults AGAIN (this time, trading an item to the exit point, 50 days MINIMUM)
    - Get 3 final ZNM items from bosses (also used to pop Pandemonium Warden, toughest boss in XI. And did I mention they only had a 1 in 3 chance of dropping?)
    - Fight a ghost using special weaponskill (Okay, this one's a bit easier).

    Relics in XIV are lightweights to get compared to mythics in XI. So, stop whining about how "hard" or "difficult" they are to get, cause they ain't.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyln View Post
    Relics in XIV are lightweights to get compared to mythics in XI. So, stop whining about how "hard" or "difficult" they are to get, cause they ain't.
    They may not be "hard" or "difficult" to obtain, but it's way more of a time investment than I want to put into it. If this is what is supposed to tide us over until beta for 2.0 starts, I'm just going to complete the story elements and play other things.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyln View Post


    You're comparing getting the relic in NEW Dynamis, not how it was in OLD Dynamis. Really, FFXIV relics are more comparable to getting a Mythic weapon in XI.

    Allow me to show you what it took to get a Mythic weapon in XI.

    - Complete the main ToAU story line (Not that hard really)
    - Get Captain rank (by completing all 50 assaults - Minimum 50 days).
    - Climb Nyzul Isle to get special weapon (although, it is possible to get weapon before getting to top)
    > Start quest
    - Kill 3 Beastmen bosses
    - Complete all four areas of Salvage
    - Get Key (From climbing Nyzul Isle)
    - Kill Odin (In Einjerhar)
    - Get 150,000 Nyzul isle points
    - get 30,000 Alexandrite (drops only in Salvage in 1-100 increments. You'd be lucky to get more than 100 per run)
    - get 10,000 ichor in Einjerhar (Months and months of Einjerhar running)
    - Do all 50 assaults AGAIN (this time, trading an item to the exit point, 50 days MINIMUM)
    - Get 3 final ZNM items from bosses (also used to pop Pandemonium Warden, toughest boss in XI. And did I mention they only had a 1 in 3 chance of dropping?)
    - Fight a ghost using special weaponskill (Okay, this one's a bit easier).

    Relics in XIV are lightweights to get compared to mythics in XI. So, stop whining about how "hard" or "difficult" they are to get, cause they ain't.

    Why compare the difficulty of obtaining a FFXIV Relic with a FXI Mythic? They are not the same thing.
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  4. #44
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    Just throwing it out there but obtaining a relic when the cap was 75 was a lot harder then it is to obtain the XIV relics. This is non-negotiable.

    Heck at launch it took more time to level one class to 75 then it could potentially take to get a relic here. I mean, many are on the last few steps already here.
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  5. #45
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    The big problem is the game is all casualized up so that everyone can do the content up to this point. If you don't want to put the time into this/ can't then you can't get the best weapon in the game, its that simple. Tough luck for the people that can't do it, you have the new grand company gear and the other primal items though and they are still pretty good.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krausus View Post
    Why compare the difficulty of obtaining a FFXIV Relic with a FXI Mythic? They are not the same thing.


    They are comparable. They're both endgame weapons seen as the most powerful weapons as they're class, and they both require long and arduous steps to get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyln View Post


    You're comparing getting the relic in NEW Dynamis, not how it was in OLD Dynamis. Really, FFXIV relics are more comparable to getting a Mythic weapon in XI.


    I wouldn't compare XIV relics to XI relics either, you don't know their position in XIV yet.
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  8. #48
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    Yeah these relics are going to take awhile to complete and a very long while for any casual that tries. Seeing some of the JP posts makes your head spin with all the stuff they added the OP is still missing quiet a bit of info.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyln View Post


    They are comparable. They're both endgame weapons seen as the most powerful weapons as they're class, and they both require long and arduous steps to get.

    I didn't play much of XI but didn't the mythic come out much later than relic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krausus View Post
    I didn't play much of XI but didn't the mythic come out much later than relic?
    Mythic were the relic of ToAU needed to basically clear all ToAU content and get like 30,000 alexanderite which droped from salvage. It was just as difficult to get unless you grinded the ToAU content as it was released.
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