Casual vs Hardcore

[Denmo]

I just think it's funny that Yoshi P came out and said that this game will be like a casual Theme Park.

I remember working at my local park as a ride operator. We had people trying to break some record of 50 consecutive rides on this rickety wooden roller coaster. Thing goes at 60 MPH but it rocks you around so hard sometimes you feel like you were just punched everywhere afterwards. What really got me was that they were sitting there, talking up strategies for how to minimize the rocking so that they could last longer before giving up, like "leaning into turns" and "holding your arms forward during drops".

It reminded me a lot of AV/CC speedrunning forum talk... And the analogies are too good to pass up.

So I drew this a while back.

[Kafeen]

Wait. I'm a pretty casual player. Am I already supposed to have everything levelled with all the best gear too?

[Babydoll]

Agree 100% with OP

[morpheus]

What I want to see is skill rewarded more than rng. Right now, rng gets you the best gear in the game for most part. Really nice melded gear is still better than most dungeon gear. Imo hardcore=skilled, so yes hardcore should have better gear. What i don't wanna see is someone with 80+ hours a week to put in the game who sucks, walking around town in the best gear. Either they need to have gear that's far better than the best possible melded gear or redo the materia system so the gear can only be so good.

[Ventus]

ITT: People who think that they're better than others because they play a video game more.

I was literally praying to the heavens someone would post this.

Relax OP, if wanting to have your E-Peen "/bowed" at because you have nothing better to do than play the game for hours and hours each day is making you this passionate then perhaps you should try another MMO:

REAL LIFE: The Original MMO

Try and cure cancer, that's supposedly toughest achieve to get.

[YuriSan]

ITT: People who think that they're better than others because they play a video game more.

Yes! they are better at the videogame itself...
I dont think peeps here say they are a better human being irl or anything...
They talking about the videogame dude.

[TheFatHousecat]

Yes! they are better at the videogame itself...
I dont think peeps here say they are a better human being irl or anything...
They talking about the videogame dude.

I am a supreme human being.

[Ventus]

I am a supreme human being.

It's about time, my mom deserves a supreme human being

[Gramul]

I don't think there's much to explain about the scenario. It's what everyone's been saying, that anyone with a bit of luck
can get content while someone that actually invests time doing things might have horrible luck. But let me explain why I say "casual".

As of right now, most achievements are luck based. While there's skill involved in getting the content into farming mode (and actually clearing it the first time) but at the end, while opening that chest the only thing that's standing between you and the loot/gear is the RNG.

Many (myself included) have said that this is done to prolong content. But if you think about it, the whole luck thing can also be used to appeal the casual gamer. The casual or even the core gamer won't spend that much time in-game, so let's give them content that can be done at any time, content that comes with the drop rates many hate. Perhaps that's the reason why we don't have long re-entry timers? Or why the 5th chest at the end of the raids is based on doing it as quick as possible?

As with the Relic weapons, well most of it is the same. You can't get the weapons by getting better at your job, you only get them by spamming the content while waiting for the seals to drop, getting hq mats, creating the class weapon, doing the double meld or doing several CC/AV runs (perhaps the only exception if the 100% drop rate thing was true) to see if you get the necessary items.

Hope I explained myself ;-; I'm horrible at doing it online.

You did a fine job.

Now, I'm not exactly for luck based gameplay, however, it stands to reason that the more times you attempt it, the better chance you have to get it. A different way to handle it would be like a point system, but then you'd just get complaints about grinding which really are no more or less valid than the complaints we have now. In any case I think we would all like to see proper compensation for what we put into the game.

Now, nothing about this game takes 'skill'. Cycling through proper combos and paying attention to what to do in battle is more a matter of strategy. The game doesn't test our reflexes or ability to maneuver fights in a dynamic way. It's not an action game and what you are putting on the line is your time and attention. That's what you spend to get good at this kind of game.

The relic weapons aren't simply a matter of luck. Even at your luckiest, you still have to grind for company seals, go through rank 2 hamlets at the very least 3 times, have a gathering job strong enough/have enough money for high quality materials (if you're smart, you'll equip gear that ups the chance of HQ materials), have access to crafting job strong enough to meld 2 rare IV materia to a difficult to craft weapon, kill a stronghold NM, get rare materials from end game dungeon runs, and who knows what else.

Do you really and honestly think that a casual gamer can breeze through all of that based solely on luck? Because they'd have to be pretty damn lucky.

[Punainen]

Hope you have those flame shields ready...

Uh, noooo. As a casual player, I can assure you, that if being casual left me in the dust, I would never even play this game at all (and I'm sure most share this sentiment), and there goes SE's business. You shouldn't be rewarded for having NO LIFE outside of a single game. MOST people have school, jobs, husbands/wives, kids, other family, other hobbies, other games even, etc... Just because you wont even get up from your game long enough to bathe, doesn't mean the rest of us shouldn't be allowed to have fun when we decide to play. If you want a "HARDCORE" game, go find one. This isn't it. Get over it.