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  1. #111
    Player Denmo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmonte View Post
    while your fixing things why don't you fix that predisposition you have against other people that have ideas or comments that you may or may not like.
    It's true. You got me. I do in fact have a predisposition against people that don't make sense.

    It's probably not fair of me, but I don't care.

    This guy summarized my opinion of your opinion on what you claim is a lack of "class diversity":

    What's the alternative? Skill trees? I hate those, especially in MMOs. The biggest draw-in of this game for me is that one character is capable of doing anything and everything they want, without fear of going wrong. The only thing that deviates from this is choosing cities and GCs, but it's really not a big deal (especially once we start having 8 characters per server).

    I don't even know where you got class diversity from anyway. Nobody's talking about what you just defined except you.
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  2. #112
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    Tyler Wevlum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antanias View Post
    I like the current system, thank you
    Agreed. Other than a few balancing issues which are in part due to content rather than purely class design issues (i.e. close range single target DDs are fine if the game isn't completely range-centric and aoe-centric but that's another topic) I absolutely love the new system.

    Even the spell changes which some people were less sure about which to a degree is a fair complaint if you like more traditional FF spells. However, in my opinion I really like how each element seems to have its own little traits and quirks i.e. thunder being about the single target damage, fire being about aoe. I was beginning to find the previous FF spells where you basically have the same damage spell in different 'flavors' purely to get a 'super effective' hit a bit tiresome after so many games with that kind of system, so I do like the mage changes. That said please make ice spells chain even if the combo bonus is just lowered mp or something (I live for the combo animations and flashy icons).

    Again, aside from certain trends happening in content where certain classes are favored (not saying the only viable option) due to how said content plays out, I adore the class changes and what jobs bring to the armory system; and those issues are still being addressed and tweaked hopefully so I look forward to 2.0.
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  3. #113
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    Starlord's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmonte View Post
    while I'm fixing things why don't I fix that predisposition I have against other people that have ideas or comments that I may or may not like.
    Fixed!!!!!!! DDDDD
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  4. #114
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    Felix Valmont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Most games don't even allow you to be so "diverse" anyhow, what difference does it make? In FFXI the Subjob made it so you can be Diverse... in FFXIV its kinda of the same deal here except you have 2 classes to cross-class from to your job... Its still Diverse in its own way.. just limited on what you can do.

    Nevertheless, Not many games can give you diversity...
    This is not "many" or "other" games. this is FFXIV and it had diversity before Yoshida Decided people are to stupid/lazy to juggle spells/skills. as for the argument that we can sub skills that's cool and great, but some of the subs we get to choose from are so stupidly different from the job role we're on whats the point.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Fixed!!!!!!! DDDDD
    what are you 60 something, Professor Starlord? I'm pretty Sure I'm was the only one i screwed up on. besides it's not like i missed any letters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmonte View Post
    This is not "many" or "other" games. this is FFXIV and it had diversity before Yoshida Decided people are to stupid/lazy to juggle spells/skills. as for the argument that we can sub skills that's cool and great, but some of the subs we get to choose from are so stupidly different from the job role we're on whats the point.
    I really, really don't see how this game's abilities are dumbed down. Leveling up? Sure, dumbed down. But the abilities require more split-second adjustments than they used to. Before you just stayed behind the target and spammed a ton of skills (SO hard). Now you have to move around the mob and be careful you won't die for it.

    I haven't understood your argument for your last couple of posts.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmonte View Post
    what are you 60 something, Professor Starlord? I'm pretty Sure I'm was the only one i screwed up on. besides it's not like i missed any letters.
    What are you Debbie Valmonte? I'm pretty sure you are being rather negative

    This is not many or other games.. so FFXIV is "different" then.. oh and btw you can STILL be Diverse.. just don't use JOBS!! and use CLASSES!!! you can have all the Diversity you want.
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denmo View Post
    It's true. You got me. I do in fact have a predisposition against people that don't make sense.
    I'm sorry to hear that your comprehension and understanding skills are so horribly bad, you cant keep pace with what was typed. Worry not, as it seems your not the only one.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmonte View Post
    I'm sorry to hear that your comprehension and understanding skills are so horribly bad, you cant keep pace with what was typed. Worry not, as it seems your not the only one.
    Got another bad*** in the house! Quick everyone make for the Mountains.. He's too SMART for us!

    *Warning, the Self-Destruct system has been activated. Repeat, the self-destructed system has been activated, this sequence cannot be aborted, All Players proceed to the cart at the bottom platform!*
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    What are you Debbie Valmonte? I'm pretty sure you are being rather negative

    This is not many or other games.. so FFXIV is "different" then.. oh and btw you can STILL be Diverse.. just don't use JOBS!! and use CLASSES!!! you can have all the Diversity you want.
    your locked to the same skill set, be it job or class. besides that's not diversifying your job/class or role, that's just stacking skills.
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