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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    There is a major issue that I (potentially) see as well:

    Halmarut wants to do a pre-emptive rejoining. The one about to happen is on the Fourth. But in order for a rejoining to happen, there must but a calamity on the Source to make the Source "want" the ice element, right? I do not see any evidence of this incoming calamity on the Source. We've heard nothing about it - we know the Source like our backyard at this point!

    When we had a similar threat of an incoming rejoining, the 8th Umbral Calamity where we went to The First, we had this big threat ongoing with Black Rose. So where is this happening?
    Quote Originally Posted by Fordragon View Post
    We cannot be sure if these preparations are still necessary, now that Hydealyn no longer keeps the reflections apart.
    There's a few details that more or less confirm that the source no longer needs prepping for a calamity; the ascians only needed one more calamity to essentially win, which implies that more efficient methods would have opened up eliminating the need for further calamities. We also know that Azem's key can, at least post-Hydaelyn's death, rejoin entire regions of a shard to the source without need of a prepped calamity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    4. Elpis is not post sundering What? We were shown cinematics of what happens, that does not confirm the Elpis conjoined to us has experienced sundering. Halmarut and Azem theoretically would be there. Even if they aren't, you did not answer the "everyone is an idiot" or "she didn't tell anyone" problems. Was no one stidying this? Guess not. Contrived. So many people have to be oblivious that it means its all, once again, a herring.
    The Solstice is a direct consequence of the Sundering, there's not really anything we could do in Elpis to stop it without causing further timey-wimey issues. And the Ascians wouldn't have given the Solstice any real consideration as they were convinced that they'd succeed in their own method to make Etheirys whole again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    I don't exactly remember the timetable for the setup of the Eigth but I want to say the ball was rolling on that in the early patches with the mention of Black Rose. In any case I am almost certain it wasn't all set up in one patch, which means either writers forgot or its another indicator this premise is misdirection.
    The Eight Umbral Calamity was set up to be a calamity of light all the way back in ARR patches with Thordan, but his defeat(and the incorrect triggering of the Flood of Light) messed everything up which is why Elidibus stepped in and tried to fast-track the rejoining by bringing the Warriors of Darkness to the Source. I expect Elidibus only set his sights on Black Rose as a calamity trigger once Zenos's body became available after he committed suicide.
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    Last edited by SkankyRoe; 05-07-2026 at 03:43 PM.
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