Lets have class only abilities and spells

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You're basing your entire opinion of "Job = Better at everything" only by how Monk plays?

And WHM. About the only thing I miss as WHM is Chameleon.

I don't see anything wrong with my point, because I'm merely stating how it looks like from my perspective - from the classes that I play. You state yours. Nothing wrong with that.

Not sure you even play XIV.

Sure I do. We partied at raptors some days ago. And I'm in one of the LS you are in, too. I'm just quiet.

Plenty of classes give higher advantages than Jobs. Ask any PLD, MRD, THM who actually experience this game every day.

MRD/THM surely experience the game every day. PLD not so much (maybe GLA), just like MNK and DRG, courtesy of our great community mostly stacking THM/BLM.

I don't see THM needing many cross class skills since they're so squishy. Sure, you can use second wind and cure + SS, but if you draw hate, it won't save you. By the time you finish casting cure/SS, not counting a big chance you get interrupted, you'll lose more HP for it to make a big difference. About the only thing that really saves you is chameleon, but you get that with BLM too, and BLM also gets convert, that potentially gives you a second HP bar...

GLA has an advantage over PLD because you get access to MRD skills, but that's because PLD needs adjustments badly, so you can't really bring that argument.

MRD? Not sure. WARs don't seem to have any problems surviving.

You're right about one thing, the idea is a failure, should just be that a job works in either case. It's supposed to be a heroic embodiment in the FF verse.

Well at least we agree that it's a failure.

To everyone making a case for CNJ cross skills, do you keep in mind that CNJ's versions are much more potent than what you get cross class? SS loses about a third (if not half, don't remember) of it's protection and you don't get Cura cross class either.